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re: It's way past time to overhaul our education system

Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:48 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:48 am to
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--teachers are horribly underpaid.

Disagree.

A teacher with 20 years experience and a Master's degree will make $80k+ here in suburban STL. Not bad for a 9-month job (to say nothing of one of the best retirement systems around). This isn't universal, but as this shows, neither is bad teacher pay.

A problem is that many good teachers will leave the system early on because pay is tied completely to longevity.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:54 am to
Teacher pay depends greatly on the state. I can't say whether they are underpaid here in Alabama, but they haven't gotten a raise in 4 or 5 years, and actually got a pay cut a couple of years ago when they restructured their retirement plan. They're a favorite whipping boy of the Republicans in this state, which is somewhat understandable as the teacher's union(AEA) pretty much controlled state politics for years through the Democratic party.

I think with a Master's the median is around $50k, which is decent money in Alabama. The benefits are pretty top notch though.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 9:55 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:59 am to
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A teacher with 20 years experience and a Master's degree will make $80k+ here in suburban STL


I can't speak for St. Louis but the teachers who are in low-performing schools here aren't 20 year teachers. They're untenured, fresh out of the door because there's no incentive for a long-term teacher in a low-performing school getting state audited every 2 years and dealing with huge staff turnover as a result. Making on average around $30k.

Stability is a huge, huge issue in those schools here. This is the first time in the 8 years I've been in my building we haven't had close to 30%+ staff turnover. Either due to audit recommedations or teachers who burn out quick.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 11:00 am
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