re: Looking for opinions other than Bama fans: Is Kiffin a top 5 OC in the country?

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I'd caution any Bama fan that an OC working with Bama talent is always going to look good. That's just how good your recruits/players have been compared to everyone else. IOW, it's very hard to judge how good or bad he might be just on Bama.

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This is true, but not entirely fair. Bama's offense wasn't exactly humming in years past under that guy who went to Colorado State. It did better under Nussmeier, but few people ever really credited Bama as a top-level offensive program. So having great talent helps, but it doesn't guarantee greatness in an OC. In any event, it's a moot point, really -- if Kiffin does well with the talent Bama gets, he's going to do well while at Bama, right? They'll still be getting the talent, after all, so there's a rhetorical tautology about the argument.