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re: The JD era at UF needs to end, now.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:04 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:04 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Driskel can be fixed, our coaches can't.
Im gonna say this: Driskel deserves to start against UT.
But if he performs again like he did against Bama, the coaching staff HAS to put their foot down, and say enough is enough.
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:00 am to boXerrumble
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Im gonna say this: Driskel deserves to start against UT.
Based on what?
Driskel was 2-for-16 for 45 yards on passes thrown at least 10 yards down the field.
He said he was going to correct his down field accuracy and he didn't. He deserves to be benched.
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But if he performs again like he did against Bama, the coaching staff HAS to put their foot down, and say enough is enough.
How about we be proactive for once and not wait until he sucks again to bench him. He's a redshirt junior, he's not going to get much better than this.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 11:53 am to gatorsimz
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How about we be proactive for once and not wait until he sucks again to bench him. He's a redshirt junior, he's not going to get much better than this.
If he had played all of the games you could make that argument.
Your premise: He's had long enough.
The counterargument:
3 new offensive coordinators.
Injured almost the entire year last year.
Injured the year her replaced Brantley.
It's just not true. If he were playing all those games, or getting meaningful experience, then sure.
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Driskel was 2-for-16 for 45 yards on passes thrown at least 10 yards down the field.
He said he was going to correct his down field accuracy and he didn't. He deserves to be benched.
Against Bama. At Home. I mentioned earlier: They've lost 3 games in the past 5 years at home, or something even more outrageous than that. Driskel is not Manziel, but his receivers and O-Line are definitely not A&M quality.
Furthermore, Saban is a better HC than Muschamp and has clearly studied our offense because they sniffed out everything we were trying to do without much of a problem.
The wide receivers are just plain bad, and Jeff adjusts too much for them because he has no faith in them.
The Offensive Line is the worst we've ever had second only to last year.
The running backs had no productivity.
Seriously, you guys are so quick to give Driskel such a hard time but ignore the numerous drops of perfect passes. Receivers being out of place, jogging their routes, not fighting for the ball (this is a big one).
If you guys say he's had adequate support from the team, let alone the fans, you're delusional.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:36 pm to boXerrumble
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Im gonna say this: Driskel deserves to start against UT.
No he doesn't. But with that being said Driskel didn't give up 645 yds on defense.
My point is that this team is a dumpster fire.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:43 pm to Edearl Watson
Treon needs snaps against TN. He should have been taking them in the 4th against Bama.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:47 pm to bengalbait
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Driskel is a mental midget. He is an increadable athelete
Wow.......
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:16 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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The counterargument:
3 new offensive coordinators.
Injured almost the entire year last year.
Injured the year her replaced Brantley.
Excuses. Let's look at what's happening right now... He's missing open receivers. He still has no touch on the short pass. He's not even running the read option well anymore.
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Against Bama. At Home. I mentioned earlier: They've lost 3 games in the past 5 years at home, or something even more outrageous than that.
So what? The Southern Miss qb had a better game than Driskel and that was at Bama. 19/35 207 Yards 0 td 0 int
Even the FAU guy had a better day. 12/19 88 Yards 0 td 0 int
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The wide receivers are just plain bad, and Jeff adjusts too much for them because he has no faith in them.
Maybe they'd look a little better if they had a somewhat competent QB throwing the ball to them.
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The Offensive Line is the worst we've ever had second only to last year.
I was actually surprised how well the OL played given it was at Bama.
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The running backs had no productivity.
Any team would have a difficult time running the ball when there is absolutely no threat passing the ball.
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Seriously, you guys are so quick to give Driskel such a hard time but ignore the numerous drops of perfect passes.
There's going to be drops every game, it's a part of football. Drops aren't an excuse for a Qb going 9/28 for 93 yards 1 td and 2 int.
Last week he's lucky he didn't lose the game when he threw an interception right to the UK defender. That should have been a pick six but it miraculously deflected into DRobs hands. His other interception was something you'd see from a freshman.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:30 pm to gatorsimz
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Excuses. Let's look at what's happening right now... He's missing open receivers. He still has no touch on the short pass. He's not even running the read option well anymore.
The pass is dictated before the snap to get the ball out of his hands faster. It's not intended that he make long-drawn out reads because he'd be sacked literally every time.
And with the read option -- yeah. Against Bama. They're not exactly known for having a horrible run-defense.
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So what? The Southern Miss qb had a better game than Driskel and that was at Bama. 19/35 207 Yards 0 td 0 int
I'm going to guess Bama took this one a lot more seriously than Southern Mississippi. Just a hunch.
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Maybe they'd look a little better if they had a somewhat competent QB throwing the ball to them.
Maybe they would have more respect if they fricking caught the ball when it hit them in the face. He clearly waits longer because he can't trust them to catch it even when he makes no mistakes. This is the second game where perfect passes were made and completely missed -- on third and long nonetheless.
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I was actually surprised how well the OL played given it was at Bama.
It wasn't good. The pocket was actually up for a few seconds beforehand but Driskel was throwing under duress for much of the game. Again, this is why the throw is dictated before the snap after making the read from the line.
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Any team would have a difficult time running the ball when there is absolutely no threat passing the ball.
Georgia Southern says hello.
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There's going to be drops every game, it's a part of football. Drops aren't an excuse for a Qb going 9/28 for 93 yards 1 td and 2 int.
Yeah they kinda are when they're every week. If we had a solid game from our receivers -Robinson, I think Driskel would look better.
Look at Alabama's running back Drake do everything in his power to catch that ball from Sims. His receivers made him look good. Real good.
Our receivers just give up and it's obvious.
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Last week he's lucky he didn't lose the game when he threw an interception right to the UK defender.
Last week we're lucky he threw a touchdown fade pass perfectly from 4th and Goal with .2 seconds on the gameclock.
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His other interception was something you'd see from a freshman.
Did you watch Sims' interception? Everyone throws picks.
1. There's no faith in the receivers and vice versa, whose fault that is is up for debate but really, Driskel does well until balls start getting dropped.
2. Our running backs don't have an excuse to not even breach 50 yards together (Driskel got 59 by himself.) There's no excuse except the line isn't doing their job -- or the playcalls are wrong.
3. Our offensive line is just hot garbage. Every down I feel like Driskel is fighting for his life -- it doesn't matter if three are rushing or six, they break through and destroy our line.
The whole offense is wrecked, and Driskel is not the only one performing miserably out there. He has literally no support from the team, the fans or the circumstances. Anyone would have a terrible day.
You guys were saying the exact same fricking thing about Murphy last year. The exact same thing. In fact I'm going to look into this board and show what people said about Murphy who sucked absolute donkey nuts when he came in.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If it weren't for Driskel's legs, he'd probably be worse than Brantley. Jacoby, where u at?
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Brissett would def. be better suited for this offense. We went with Driskel last year because of the terrible OL, but now with the OL being better( though Murphy questioned that today ) that may have been a short-sighted decision.
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Murphy seems like a better fit for the offense right now. The offense looked pretty good with him in the 2nd half.
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Our offense was pretty efficient today. We scored TD's in the redzone for the most part, and Murphy executed very well. I was very pleased with his play today. More so than I have been with Driskel, ever.
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This is a breath of fresh air. He mentions the words read and progressions.
His name is mentioned a lot less as time goes on.
I've seen this movie before, and it doesn't play out very well. We need to fix way more problems on offense before we fix Driskel, period.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 4:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
i think it speaks volumes when this guy speaks out.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:11 pm to finchmeister08
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i think it speaks volumes when this guy speaks out.
Just like the dudes who celebrated Driskel's broken leg and called for Murphy. If the entire Gator coaching staff doesn't feel like Treon can handle the game, I trust their instincts.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:58 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
So Muschamp has pretty much destroyed the teams over the past 2-3 yrs, but you trust his/his coaches instincts.
I am convinced that you just like to argue or debate everything.
Use your eyes, what do they tell you in regards to Driskel? Tell me, what does Driskel do well as a QB?
I am convinced that you just like to argue or debate everything.
Use your eyes, what do they tell you in regards to Driskel? Tell me, what does Driskel do well as a QB?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Our OL gave up no sacks and we averaged 4 ypc running. What more do you want from an OL?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:34 pm to gatordmb89
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So Muschamp has pretty much destroyed the teams over the past 2-3 yrs, but you trust his/his coaches instincts.
I trust Roper a lot, honestly. If the dude can access talent at a place like Duke, he can probably do it here as well.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:35 pm to gatorsimz
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Our OL gave up no sacks and we averaged 4 ypc running. What more do you want from an OL?
Driskel averaged 4.9 yards a rush and had 59 yards total -- and it was specifically because of him scrambling, not because they had adequate pass protection.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:14 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ok, answer the question in the last paragraph. What does JD do well as a QB?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:16 pm to gatordmb89
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So Muschamp has pretty much destroyed the teams over the past 2-3 yrs, but you trust his/his coaches instincts.
I am convinced that you just like to argue or debate everything.
Use your eyes, what do they tell you in regards to Driskel? Tell me, what does Driskel do well as a QB?
Man you completely went 180 on Driskel after the Bama game
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:22 pm to boXerrumble
Yeah. I've always been a supporter of his, even knowing he has a limited ceiling. I did expect major improvement out of him, and Bama's secondary is pedestrian. I can only take so much of seeing him disappoint. I actually started in the UK gm, then he had a nice 2nd half. You can't throw for around 30% as a QB and still have my support. Not to mention I thought he would be money running the zone read and he was awful with it against Bama.
I kept saying it is the WR's, it is the wrong scheme, etc. going into this yr I said if he doesn't look improved in an offense made for him, he never will. Well, he looked bad against Bama. So bad that I'm convinced he was the common denominator all along. No scheme is good for him.
I kept saying it is the WR's, it is the wrong scheme, etc. going into this yr I said if he doesn't look improved in an offense made for him, he never will. Well, he looked bad against Bama. So bad that I'm convinced he was the common denominator all along. No scheme is good for him.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:43 pm to gatordmb89
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Ok, answer the question in the last paragraph. What does JD do well as a QB?
What does our entire offense do well while on the field?
Catching? Running? Blocking? Penalties?
And I'll answer your question: Make crucial fourth and goal throws in overtime with late playcalls from the sideline to save a game lost by our defense.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 9:45 pm to gatordmb89
Well....lets stop the argument for a while. Its obvious the coaches don't see Treon as ready to take snaps as the lead dog and that's understandable as he is a true frosh and I don't want him up in Knoxvegas with 100,000+ singing Rocky Top.
We cannot lose to UT...its a hinge game and even though they are decimated on both lines and playing a lot of frosh...Worley and North can be almost as bad as Sims & Cooper. Fortunately their frosh RB (Hurd or Heard?) hasn't gelled yet and we don't want a running game to worry about. This is a game where we can focus more on the passing threat instead.
Now if we are ahead by a score and down inside the 40 yd line of UT...then bring in Treon and get his feet wet some. A true frosh QB on the road in the SEC is a recipe for an L.
We beat UT and we have green grass in front of us.
We cannot lose to UT...its a hinge game and even though they are decimated on both lines and playing a lot of frosh...Worley and North can be almost as bad as Sims & Cooper. Fortunately their frosh RB (Hurd or Heard?) hasn't gelled yet and we don't want a running game to worry about. This is a game where we can focus more on the passing threat instead.
Now if we are ahead by a score and down inside the 40 yd line of UT...then bring in Treon and get his feet wet some. A true frosh QB on the road in the SEC is a recipe for an L.
We beat UT and we have green grass in front of us.
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