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Is the playoff going to hurt the SEC?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:55 pm
I can see it being nearly impossible to go undefeated now with the balance of power. The playoff is going to favor weaker undefeated teams. Like BYU going undefeated. No way in Hell they do that playing weekly in the SEC. Let an ACC team go undefeated, a PAC 12 and a Big 10 team like PSU that sucks balls. There is no way a 1 loss SEC team gets in but I know a 1 loss SEC team beats those 4 every time.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:56 pm to rebeloke
It'll all work it's way out after the first round.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:56 pm to rebeloke
Previous years there were 2 teams vying for a title.
Now there are 4.
It may or may not help, but I dont' see how it hurts.
Now there are 4.
It may or may not help, but I dont' see how it hurts.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:57 pm to rebeloke
TBH I don't see a SEC team making it this year.
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 8:01 pm to rebeloke
The Computers really helped the SEC. Taking away the Computers will hurt the SEC.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 8:05 pm to rebeloke
Like the poster above said, the only scenario I see the SEC being left at home is with a Notre Dame team having a great year. Even then you would need a couple undefeated conference champs
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:21 pm to rebeloke
youll never see an all sec championship game. one only from the conference.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:33 pm to rebeloke
They should've gone +2 to start with for the playoffs. The Top 8 teams. You could even work in something where the Power5 Champions are represented and then 3 At Large/Wild Card teams.
Of course then we'd have 3 SEC Teams in the Playoffs every year, and the other conferences would be pissed off. However, that provide for a more honest playoff that actually has the best teams.
Of course then we'd have 3 SEC Teams in the Playoffs every year, and the other conferences would be pissed off. However, that provide for a more honest playoff that actually has the best teams.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 9:39 pm to rebeloke
The SEC will get someone in.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:34 pm to rebeloke
Given that strength of schedule no longer matters, I think there's a very good chance that it will. I also think that combined with the push for supposed P5 matchups/P5 superiority, it may well wind up killing off a lot of marquee OOC matchups instead of increasing them. Teams will schedule the Wake Forrests of the world and that will be enough. Why schedule a good team when you can schedule a team that simply has the right membership?
The BCS had unbiased computers to weight who you played and who you lost two against the opinions of polls which rely a great deal on last year or even year's of reputation and simple Ws and Ls - those alogrithims checked the quality of a win or a loss and balanced things against popular opinion/polls. Humans simply don't operate that way and ultimately the selection committee will be under pressure to represent multiple conferences regardless of more unbiased ways of selecting teams as well as under pressure to select teams multiple tv markets -- and don't think catering to more eyeballs on tv sets won't influence selections because it will.
The BCS had unbiased computers to weight who you played and who you lost two against the opinions of polls which rely a great deal on last year or even year's of reputation and simple Ws and Ls - those alogrithims checked the quality of a win or a loss and balanced things against popular opinion/polls. Humans simply don't operate that way and ultimately the selection committee will be under pressure to represent multiple conferences regardless of more unbiased ways of selecting teams as well as under pressure to select teams multiple tv markets -- and don't think catering to more eyeballs on tv sets won't influence selections because it will.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 4:23 am to rebeloke
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I can see it being nearly impossible to go undefeated now with the balance of power. The playoff is going to favor weaker undefeated teams. Like BYU going undefeated. No way in Hell they do that playing weekly in the SEC. Let an ACC team go undefeated, a PAC 12 and a Big 10 team like PSU that sucks balls. There is no way a 1 loss SEC team gets in but I know a 1 loss SEC team beats those 4 every time.
I assume you're talking in generalities and not specifically about this year. I'd be stunned in the B1G produces an undefeated team.
Otherwise, I agree with you. Especially since each division appears balanced within itself.
It's why going to a 9 game schedule, at this time, would be insanity. You'd just be increasing the odds of NOT producing an undefeated or one loss team, while the B1G's fatten up on in-conference cupcakes.
It's also why these cross-conference Power 5 games are hugely important. It'll be the only way to prove to the committee that SEC quality is light years ahead of these dogmeats.
The real wild card, however, will be Notre Dame. You know the committee will bend over backward to include them.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:48 am to rebeloke
Until the committee actually shows us what it thinks by releasing inseason standings, it's silly to make assumptions about how SoS will be treated. I think it is most likely the committee will want to avoid rocking the boat, and their rankings will not be significantly different than the polls, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Baylor was a good 5-10 spots lower than in the polls as a statement against our nonconference schedule. A&M could see this kind of backlash also. As the season continues both schools would see their SoS go up a lot, and at this point I don't see how an undefeated Baylor or an 1-2 SEC champ A&M (or any other SEC team) doesn't end up easily in the playoffs. BYU is another matter. Notre Dame has a good schedule and would deserve consideration if they did well.
It's gonna become clearer, what was it? week 12 last year and 4 teams were still undefeated?
At this point, with the big10 self destructing and the Pac12/ACC both making their premier programs look vulnerable the SEC already looks as likely to get two teams in as it is 1, and zero teams in is inconceivable. If Auburn knocks off K-State this thursday, the SEC will be the only conference to get to conference play without having a loss in a game they weren't heavy dogs in.
It's gonna become clearer, what was it? week 12 last year and 4 teams were still undefeated?
At this point, with the big10 self destructing and the Pac12/ACC both making their premier programs look vulnerable the SEC already looks as likely to get two teams in as it is 1, and zero teams in is inconceivable. If Auburn knocks off K-State this thursday, the SEC will be the only conference to get to conference play without having a loss in a game they weren't heavy dogs in.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 7:49 am to rebeloke
I think a playoff doesn't help to its fullest until t he playoff is expanded to 8 teams. No way in hell that AT LEAST the SEC champ is included in the top 8 teams.
Posted on 9/16/14 at 10:38 am to rebeloke
I would like to see them do away with conference championships and expand the playoffs to 8 teams. You would probably get two or three sec teams in most years that way.
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