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re: What We’re Afraid to Say About Ebola

Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
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None to date, of course since it isn't loose in our cities.


If I were a terrorist, the first thing I would do is get infected purposely and then try to smuggle my way into the U.S. and infect as many people as I possibly could.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:09 pm to
Just sensationalism

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It would be unusual for a virus to transform in a way that changes its mode of infection," he writes. "Of the 23 known viruses that cause serious disease in man, none are known to have mutated in ways that changed how they infect humans."


LINK
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
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Uganda had an outbreak of 400+ back in 2000. I wouldn't really consider that an isolated area. Especially since it's reoccurred in the same country. It's interesting that it's been around since the 70s without an airborne mutation and it's been all over Africa and at times infecting larger populations and some of the same populations numerous times.


Here's a map showing the locations of Ebola outbreaks since 1976. None before 2014 have been in dense population centers.

The CDC and the WHO regard Ebola as one of the most extreme threats to humanity so surveillance and vigilance have been keen ever since it was discovered.

We've known about the West Africa strain since December 2013. Response was swift but the spread of the virus has been much quicker, especially in Liberia. It is completely out of control.


Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:20 pm to
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The CDC and the WHO regard Ebola as one of the most extreme threats to humanity so surveillance and vigilance have been keen ever since it was discovered.


Which makes sense given it's reoccuring infections in Africa. The US isn't the only population in the world.

That said, why hasn't it spread here despite African immigrants from those countries even in it's non-airborne form?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:21 pm to
You should definitely read this article from 2012: LINK
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Just sensationalism

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:22 pm to
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The US isn't the only population in the world.


Unamerican.

Thank God this is happening in Africa, right? I mean really, if any place needs a plague more than other continents is Africa.
This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:23 pm to
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That said, why hasn't it spread here despite African immigrants from those countries even in it's non-airborne form?


The WHO, especially, and the CDC are that effective in what they do.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:25 pm to
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However, if a single variation can become airborne then look out world.




The likelihood of which is similar to the likelihood of shooting an engine with a shotgun and expecting it to work MORE efficiently.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3950 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:26 pm to
I wouldn't worry too much. Gay aids 2.0.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:30 pm to
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The likelihood of which is similar to the likelihood of shooting an engine with a shotgun and expecting it to work MORE efficiently.


I don't understand the analogy. A virus has been introduced to a new species, one in which it seems to be proliferating. It's the nature of viruses to evolve to strains that maximize their efficiencies in optimum environments.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:47 pm to
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It's likely to become airborne


Do you even science bro?
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:48 pm to
If this is the one so be it. It is likely pretty necessary from time to time
Posted by 870Hog
99999 posts
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:50 pm to
Create vaccine and let it mutate to airborne and demolish the middle east and Africa while withholding said vaccine.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 1:57 pm to
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It's the nature of viruses to evolve to strains that maximize their efficiencies in optimum environments.




It is the nature of evolution to select for strains which are better suited to their environment. That is as far as evolution extends. Random mutations hardly ever confer novel traits upon the proband.
This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:04 pm to
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It is the nature of evolution to select for strains which are better suited to their environment. That is as far as evolution extends. Random mutations hardly ever confer novel traits upon the proband.


From Dr. Osterholm's article:

"The second possibility is one that virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private: that an Ebola virus could mutate to become transmissible through the air. You can now get Ebola only through direct contact with bodily fluids. But viruses like Ebola are notoriously sloppy in replicating, meaning the virus entering one person may be genetically different from the virus entering the next. The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice."

This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Do you even science bro?


Do you speak English?
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 3:12 pm to
If it does come from Africa all the way to "merica, do you think it will go after the Americans first, or teh African Americans?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 4:02 pm to
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If it does come from Africa all the way to "merica, do you think it will go after the Americans first, or teh African Americans?


Because humanity originated in Africa, all citizens of the US are African Americans. So, African Americans.
This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Hawkeye76
NW LA
Member since Dec 2013
68 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 8:41 pm to
It's actually a true story. It describes Ebola, Marburg, and Reston viruses. The Reston virus is a variation of Ebola which was found in a primate facility in Reston, VA. The facility was torn down shortly after.
Posted by Hawkeye76
NW LA
Member since Dec 2013
68 posts
Posted on 9/13/14 at 8:45 pm to
Guess it kinda helps some folks see the big picture I guess.
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