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re: Hey, White People.

Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:49 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:49 am to
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When saying they're disparaged as a whole to any degree you are tacitly acknowledging them as a community


Incorrect. My assertion that there are inherent disadvantages to being a minority do not necessitate that all minorities are a community. They may share a physical characteristic, but black people are no more a community than blondes or redheads (soulless beings that they are, of course ).

Many different people across the socioeconomic spectrum can share the characteristic of being a minority and have no other cogent similar characteristics. Therefore the "community" label is as lazy as it is bogus.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:58 am to
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My assertion that there are inherent disadvantages to being a minority do not necessitate that all minorities are a community. They may share a physical characteristic, but black people are no more a community than blondes or redheads (soulless beings that they are, of course ).

Many different people across the socioeconomic spectrum can share the characteristic of being a minority and have no other cogent similar characteristics. Therefore the "community" label is as lazy as it is bogus.
Agree 100%. The problem is a lot of people (white and black and whatever) don't see it that way. It's so frustrating. You hear someone whine about society's inherent oppression (privilige and the system all that bullshite) and I just want to say "No they're not! They're not oppressed! Most people are not racists. Go be a normal member of society, and people will accept you. I promise. I live in the real world, this isn't a trap. Just go do it. frick."
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 11:05 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:59 am to
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Therefore the "community" label is as lazy as it is bogus.


I agree, blacks shouldn't view themselves as a community but it doesn't detract that the majority of them do band together due to race and nothing more.

They do this with White Privilege (as opposed to calling it Majority Privilege).

They do this with "Black Community", that didn't manifest from beautiful white lips.

I only echo what the "Community" (much like the Black Caucus) produces. If Blacks want to be individuals, they need to stop focusing on race so much.

I agree that the term is specious and outright wrong, but we can't have things both ways.

We can't acknowledge that blacks are collectively at a disadvantage and then make them individuals when crime and manipulation of the system are acknowledged.

And the thing is: They do it at such a rate where we have to look at them specifically because the numbers are so unbelievably disproportionate from that race.

"According to the BJS non-Hispanic blacks accounted for 39.4% of the prison and jail population in 2009, with whites 34.2%, and Hispanics 20.6%. The incarceration rate of black males was over 6 times higher than that of white males, with a rate of 4,749 per 100,000 US residents."

Welfare statistics on top of that.

This isn't to say there aren't productive members of society who are black, but the numbers are getting increasingly troublesome.
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