re: K State over Auburn

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With him there, they've gone to 15 bowls and had winning seasons in 17 out of 22 years.

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Which is great. But again, nothing close to the level of success Auburn has achieved over the same period, not that anyone was making that comparison. I'm just saying he seems to get rewarded for the mediocre even though their 'bad years' were 25 years ago. I know KSU people love him but it's still - objectively - a middle-of-the-road program.

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Comparing Auburn to K-State isn't fair.

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Of course not for purposes of bragging, but when people start posting dumb threads about how K State can hang with Auburn it's worth mentioning IMO.