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re: Travis Gregory Stano says SEC should get 3 playoff teams

Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:25 am to
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:25 am to
I still think, fairly or not, they will try and put 4 conference champs in if they can justify it in any way.

The all SEC NCG drew bad ratings, and at the end of the day, that drives everything.

If 2 12-0 teams play in Atlanta, which could happen, doesn't that theoretically mean that the one who losses isn't NC good? They had a shot, and lost a neutral site game to someone else.

There is an absolute difference in losing in September vs. December to me.

Disclaimer: I am in no way condoning that OSU should sniff the playoff this year (even if they only lose 1 cause they looked awful), but I think MSU could get in if they only lose 1 (they have a "good" loss on the road across the country).

In the end, I think it is 4 conference champs if at all possible for $ purposes
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:41 am to
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I still think, fairly or not, they will try and put 4 conference champs in if they can justify it in any way.

I agree completely.

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If 2 12-0 teams play in Atlanta, which could happen, doesn't that theoretically mean that the one who losses isn't NC good? They had a shot, and lost a neutral site game to someone else.

No, it means the the evidence suggests that the winner is the better team. Why can't you compare the loser to the teams competing for the remaining three slots?

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There is an absolute difference in losing in September vs. December to me.
A minor difference to me. Teams should be getting better through the season. But there is way too much tendency to ignore early season losses. They count, too.

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Disclaimer: I am in no way condoning that OSU should sniff the playoff this year (even if they only lose 1 cause they looked awful), but I think MSU could get in if they only lose 1 (they have a "good" loss on the road across the country).
Fair statement. I'm not sure what opportunities are left for the Big 10 to win against significant nonconference opponents..but if the conference finishes the way it looks right now, then losing to Oregon and then sweeping through the conference isn't enough to me.

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In the end, I think it is 4 conference champs if at all possible for $ purposes
I don't know how much the dollars will impact, but 4 conference champs is the "safe" pick. Unless you put in a conference champ with a MUCH weaker record/resume, that's the way to go. But if a one loss SEC team got left out to a three loss Duke who upsets Florida St in the conference championship, there would be some explaining to do.
Posted by BillyBobPorkin
Stump Toe, Ar
Member since May 2014
1082 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:51 am to
Big 10 will not have anyone in the playoffs this year, they are awful. Notre Dame will take their spot.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21125 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:00 am to
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If 2 12-0 teams play in Atlanta, which could happen, doesn't that theoretically mean that the one who losses isn't NC good? They had a shot, and lost a neutral site game to someone else.




Or, a home game to a team that was better. But, whatever. Don't use logic. It doesn't matter.

Saban will start lobbying for this by December 9th or so. "Well, the purpose of the playoff is to get the top four teams in the country ..."



It is all a colossal joke anyway.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:04 am to
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doesn't that theoretically mean that the one who losses isn't NC good?


No more so than a 1 loss PAC12 or Big 12 team being not NC good.


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There is an absolute difference in losing in September vs. December to me.


While true, historically most of the losses in the PAC 12 and Big 12 have come late in the season to teams many thought would contend. (Kansas St., Stanford, Oregon etc)

However, I DO agree they will do their best to have 1 rep from each conference. B1G being left out.
Posted by Kritten
Athens, Ga
Member since Sep 2014
1594 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:17 am to
Great post, and my fear as well. Hope that we are wrong.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140703 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:23 am to
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The all SEC NCG drew bad ratings, and at the end of the day, that drives everything.


If they do this and the best teams aren't in the playoff, then the backlash will be tremendous.

It defeats the purpose of the whole thing doesn't it?
Posted by spike0311
Member since Sep 2012
177 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:33 pm to
I think the committee will go out of their way to have 4 conference champs as the final 4, put the reality is that if 2 undefeated SEC teams meet in the SECCG, they should both be in the final because they would be 2 of the top 4 teams in the country, and that is supposed to be the goal of the committee.
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