you really like rolling out this "greatest of all time" schtik dont you.. he's also got a lot of losses, close to the top in that category as well, being the Cy Young of coaches just means you haven't been fired.

Of all those wins, not many Conference Champ trophy's huh..

What we're talking about is winning something meaningful, not beating up FCS schools, Iowa St or Kentucky.

Right now we see a team/game riddled with mistakes to go along with talented plays, it's fortunate we don't have to start the year vs a team that's playing far better, like Aggie or UGa,, since they will have athletes as good as Mizzou.

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Posted by TigerBornTigerBred

Member since Mar 2014

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Posted on 9/1/14 at 6:07 pm to Jagd Tiger

Great post Jagd. Most of those wins were against teams he was supposed to beat and he's lost many games that he shouldn't have. He's won very few big games and the ones he managed to win turned out to be not so big later in the season. His blind loyalty to crony's has prevented him from reaching the next level and that's what I will remember him for. A good coach who could have been great but could never get out of his own way. He's a very stubborn man.

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Posted by reedus23

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Posted on 9/1/14 at 6:21 pm to Jagd Tiger

Jagd...on one hand I agree with you. I want to win something meaningful. More than a division. And I think it's ok for a fanbase to always demand more. Win one national championship, demand a second.

But at the same time, it's only fair to recognize the accomplishments, especially considering where the program has come from in my lifetime. Winning the SEC east is no small feat, especially in just the 2nd year in the SEC. Making bowl games year in, year out, is no small feat and hasn't always been the norm.

Always demand more but also recognize the accomplishments. That's my take.

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Posted by MizzouJim

Member since Nov 2013

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Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:38 pm to Jagd Tiger

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you really like rolling out this "greatest of all time" schtik dont you

I love how you ignore the specific things I cited which are true, (total wins and more importantly, 2nd best winning percentage) and instead try to put words in my mouth. I never said he was the "greatest of all time."

There is an enormous space between saying his "trademark" is letting games get away by losing them to "greatest of all time."

I've lived through the Onofrio years forward till now, and I can tell you it was not this good. You have to go back to the sixties to even find someone comparable to him with Devine.

HCGP is not perfect but he is far from bad, and he restored the program back to relevancy from a lot of years of futility (since 1970).

I want the program to take the next step also and win a national championship, but my gosh, give the man and the program some respect. We just won the SEC East in our second year and finished 5th on the country.