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Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:17 pm to slayerxing
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:17 pm to slayerxing
Serious question to Florida fans:
1) Has Driskell shown any marked improvement? ( I assume he's pegged to be the starter?)
2 ) What has you optimistic about your offense? (Im not familiar with your projected starters)
Also, did anyone else catch Tebow subtlely insult Driskell when interviewing for the opening of the SEC Network. Something along the lines of "Im glad you could get dressed up for this" and he was wearing sweats I think? Maybe thats just me....
1) Has Driskell shown any marked improvement? ( I assume he's pegged to be the starter?)
2 ) What has you optimistic about your offense? (Im not familiar with your projected starters)
Also, did anyone else catch Tebow subtlely insult Driskell when interviewing for the opening of the SEC Network. Something along the lines of "Im glad you could get dressed up for this" and he was wearing sweats I think? Maybe thats just me....
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:17 pm to madddoggydawg
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See this is actually my issue: a lot of LSU fans have chalked up the game in the Swamp as a loss even though we're facing a team that was 4-8 last year. Most Florida fans likely wouldn't even mind conceding a loss in that game considering they can still have a successful season otherwise, yet some people are still scared of going to the Swamp even though Georgia Southern won there last year.
Not sure how you think Florida can have a successful season without beating LSU, unless you think they beat Bama, Florida needs to go at least 6-2 and possibly 7-1 to win the East and anything shy of that will be a failed year and a reason to can Muschamp.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:19 pm to madddoggydawg
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lmao really? So just because something occurred last season, it will occur again this season. What the hell type of logic is that? This is NEW season.
If you're asking if Mustchamp is still your coach then yes.
Didn't Muschamp make LSU quit last time the Tigers came to the Swamp?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:20 pm to deeprig9
Idk why you are hating on getting a coach from duke. Remember steve spurrier? The guy that has owned uga for 20 years?
Yeah... he was hired from duke.
Yeah... he was hired from duke.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:23 pm to User_Name
1. Every report this fall has indicated that Driskel looks very comfortable in the offense and had his best camp as a gator. The offense is night and day different from 2012 and 2013 and uf has looked great running it.
2. Mainly health. Outside of that, the development of the class of 2013 skill players who are going to do big things for flirida this year.
2. Mainly health. Outside of that, the development of the class of 2013 skill players who are going to do big things for flirida this year.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:47 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Curious, most of your fanbase/media is calling the Mizzou game the "threshold of acceptability" this season, do you see that as larger indicator than the Tenn game?
Given the schedule a 4x loss to Bama,LSU,USC,UGA is entirely probable, so what's the benchmark line you need to see from this team for Will to stay?
Given that a 5 loss season would get Will fired (4 losses might but it will be much more based on how things look) if Florida lost those 4, they would have to upset FSU in Tallahassee to close the year-- and even then it might be too late as its quite probable the loss to UGA would come with a pink slip.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:55 pm to socraticsilence
Muschamp really needs to win 5 SEC games this year.
Considering he only has 3 road games, and 2 of those are @ UT and @ Vandy, which are very winnable, that really means that he needs to win 3 games out of UK, LSU, MIZZOU, USCe, and UGA. All of which are in the state of Florida and 4 of which are at home.
The schedule falls out like this
Idaho
EMU
UK
@ Bama
bye
@ UT
LSU
Mizzou
bye
Jax - UGA -
@ Vandy
USCe
EKU
@ FSU
So if you figure UF wins their first three and the loses to Alabama, that makes them 3-1, 1-1. They have @ UT, then LSU and Mizzou at home. If UF loses all three of those games, Muschamp is gone, end of story.
Assuming the team is just mediocre though, and is 4-3, 2-3, with two losses to Mizzou and LSU, Muschamp absolutely must beat UGA and vandy. That would put him at 6-3, 4-3, and then, at that point, he MAY survive.
His task is a lot easier, IMO, if he beats one of Mizzou and LSU along with @ UT.
Then he would be 5-2, 3-2 heading into the UGA game. Then he could win any 2 of the next 3 (UGA, @ Vandy, USCe) and be safe.
So much depends on how the season goes and WHEN and HOW he loses, IMO.
Considering he only has 3 road games, and 2 of those are @ UT and @ Vandy, which are very winnable, that really means that he needs to win 3 games out of UK, LSU, MIZZOU, USCe, and UGA. All of which are in the state of Florida and 4 of which are at home.
The schedule falls out like this
Idaho
EMU
UK
@ Bama
bye
@ UT
LSU
Mizzou
bye
Jax - UGA -
@ Vandy
USCe
EKU
@ FSU
So if you figure UF wins their first three and the loses to Alabama, that makes them 3-1, 1-1. They have @ UT, then LSU and Mizzou at home. If UF loses all three of those games, Muschamp is gone, end of story.
Assuming the team is just mediocre though, and is 4-3, 2-3, with two losses to Mizzou and LSU, Muschamp absolutely must beat UGA and vandy. That would put him at 6-3, 4-3, and then, at that point, he MAY survive.
His task is a lot easier, IMO, if he beats one of Mizzou and LSU along with @ UT.
Then he would be 5-2, 3-2 heading into the UGA game. Then he could win any 2 of the next 3 (UGA, @ Vandy, USCe) and be safe.
So much depends on how the season goes and WHEN and HOW he loses, IMO.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:11 pm to slayerxing
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Curious, most of your fanbase/media is calling the Mizzou game the "threshold of acceptability" this season, do you see that as larger indicator than the Tenn game?
Given the schedule a 4x loss to Bama,LSU,USC,UGA is entirely probable, so what's the benchmark line you need to see from this team for Will to stay?
Florida just has to be better. If the team is obviously better, I believe 8-4 is enough for him to stay. The schedule is tough, we all know it, and some allowances will be made for that, AS LONG AS the team does not look like absolute shite winning those 8 games.
See, I probably agree that 8 regular season wins buys him another year, but should it?
Does he enter 2015 on the hot seat with 8 wins in 2014, or does Foley extend him to shut down the critics?
What's the point of bringing him back with 8 wins unless you put the kind of ultimatum on 2015 that most would say is unreasonable (win the East and maybe the SEC or get a new job).
At the point that 8 wins is acceptable and gets him an extension we might as well cut bait and go out and hire an Offensive Coach instead of trying to hire OCs-- great defensive coordinators aren't that hard to find, great OCs leave after 1 or 2 years.
Hell, what if we win 8 but Roper gets a job offer due to the offensive turnaround? Do you let Muschamp hire another OC?
No, to me and a lot of fans, 9-3 and 6-2 is the baseline for being allowed back in 2015 and even then 2015 would need to be a 10 win year to get to 2016.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:16 pm to slayerxing
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Muschamp really needs to win 5 SEC games this year.
Considering he only has 3 road games, and 2 of those are @ UT and @ Vandy, which are very winnable, that really means that he needs to win 3 games out of UK, LSU, MIZZOU, USCe, and UGA. All of which are in the state of Florida and 4 of which are at home.
The schedule falls out like this
Idaho
EMU
UK
@ Bama
bye
@ UT
LSU
Mizzou
bye
Jax - UGA -
@ Vandy
USCe
EKU
@ FSU
So if you figure UF wins their first three and the loses to Alabama, that makes them 3-1, 1-1. They have @ UT, then LSU and Mizzou at home. If UF loses all three of those games, Muschamp is gone, end of story.
Assuming the team is just mediocre though, and is 4-3, 2-3, with two losses to Mizzou and LSU, Muschamp absolutely must beat UGA and vandy. That would put him at 6-3, 4-3, and then, at that point, he MAY survive.
His task is a lot easier, IMO, if he beats one of Mizzou and LSU along with @ UT.
Then he would be 5-2, 3-2 heading into the UGA game. Then he could win any 2 of the next 3 (UGA, @ Vandy, USCe) and be safe.
So much depends on how the season goes and WHEN and HOW he loses, IMO.
Agree with you up to this point-- 5-2 but drop the WLOCP by anything more than say a last second FG/TD and I think its over as the noise in the system would be too much, the same with losing to Vandy. I think if Florida goes into the USCe game at 7-2, Boom could afford to drop that game and keep his job (though losing 2 of the last 3 would be a bitter end which if followed by a bowl loss, would again open the door to a dismissal).
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:16 pm to deeprig9
1980 was a long time ago. I understand your frustrations.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:20 pm to deeprig9
I tend to think that UF will be tough this year. With that D, they don't have to score 40 pts.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 2:33 pm to socraticsilence
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Not sure how you think Florida can have a successful season without beating LSU, unless you think they beat Bama, Florida needs to go at least 6-2 and possibly 7-1 to win the East and anything shy of that will be a failed year and a reason to can Muschamp.
He went 4-8 last year and didn't get fired, if yall make it to a bowl game he's fine. That's the problem tho, your AD could've fired Mustchamp and most of the fans wouldn't have complained. Now you've gotta wait another year for things to get really bad.Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:09 pm to madddoggydawg
All he has to do is win 8 games and not look like shite doing it, and he will get a contract extension to end the negative recruiting.
There will be no middle ground.
He will either get fired, or get an extension in THIS season.
There will be no middle ground.
He will either get fired, or get an extension in THIS season.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:35 pm to deeprig9
Tell that to Auburn who was 3-9 in 2012.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 3:57 pm to deeprig9
Deep Rig...did you swallow some of those yellow waterfalls coming down from the oil rigs?
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New OC Kurt Roper has been Cutcliff's assistant/pawn for most of his coaching career. That's not to say he can't be successful on his own, but there's certainly no evidence to suggest he can run the (shite)show he has been given.
Rig...a dog with a note in his mouth could coach up this years Gator offense...why you ask? Because Driskel is a year older and wiser (he would have had a decent year in 2013 if not injured btw)the WRs that were frosh last year have developed and we have the Va transfer McGee at TE who will wreck havoc on the SEC. RBs are a year older and Kelvin Taylor now has a year under his belt....Roper has utilized the backs more as pass receivers....between Taylor, Mack Brown, Matt Jones and bowling ball Adam Lane...we will be legit. OL? Solid six to seven as good as ANY in the SEC.
UF has been neglected by media and I love it....cause these Gators are coming out of the tunnel wanting to bust heads. The defense alone would win seven to eight games. I think folks will be highly surprised at how lethal we will be in 2014. Nobody will venture into the Swamp and come out alive.
Jeff Driskel will be garnering some All SEC votes too...just to rub it in Rig
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But please shut the frick up about Kurt Roper and Jeff Driskel.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:58 pm to reel_gator8
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Rig...a dog with a note in his mouth could coach up this years Gator offense...why you ask?
because they've been dogshit every year under mustchamp?
Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:34 pm to madddoggydawg
hmmm slightly differing opinions of Gator fans,, from "there is no threshold" to "get to Atlanta or else".
That's a pretty wide margin.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:12 pm to Korin
I just hope the lizards keep Muschamp. When things go wrong the facial expressions are priceless.
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:13 pm to deeprig9
:rivalry:
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:43 pm to Jagd Tiger
quote:
hmmm slightly differing opinions of Gator fans,, from "there is no threshold" to "get to Atlanta or else".
That's a pretty wide margin.
Because we are just as clueless as everyone else about UF this year.
I don't have a fricking clue how this season will turn out.
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