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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:09 pm to
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The same answer I gave you over there still applies


All you did was say "he didn't want to play auburn and Florida"

I'm looking for something more concrete before I come blazing on the FSU guy at the office tomorrow....
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:11 pm to
Well this is something for the FSU guy if he tries to deny that they ever had a choice between the two conferences (like many STILL do): https://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1990-09-16/sports/9009160264_1_sliger-join-the-acc-florida-state
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23832 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:12 pm to
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All you did was say "he didn't want to play auburn and Florida"
Well that is what Bowden said. He was a puss that took the easy way
Posted by SeaCay
Odessa, FL
Member since Mar 2012
1727 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:14 pm to
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All you did was say "he didn't want to play auburn and Florida"

I'm looking for something more concrete before I come blazing on the FSU guy at the office tomorrow....


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Some quotes from Bobby Bowden about joining the SEC in 1990.
St. Pete Times, 9/17/90, page 10C
"I think we made a wise decision and we have more flexibility. When your in the SEC you can't afford to play a good non-conference schedule. Playing in the ACC we can play a Notre Dame , Miami and Florida. There's six teams in the SEC that can win the conference championship, that’s a negative rather than a positive. I want to win national Championships".

L. A. Times, 9/20/90, section C9
"Joining the ACC instead of the SEC was the smart play. No team wins a national Championship with an 8-3 record. We were willing to join the SEC as long as we didn't have to play Alabama and Auburn in the same year, but the SEC declined".


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When Florida State joined the ACC in 1990, it turned down an invitation from the SEC. What would have happened had FSU president Bernie Sliger, Goin and Bowden agreed to that move?
“Our goal was to win national championships [in football] and going to the ACC gave us the best chance,” Bowden said, not hesitating for a second to confirm what many SEC fans believe about Florida State, that the move to the ACC was partly an avoidance of the more rugged SEC.
At the time, Bowden had nothing for which to apologize to critics who said he ducked the SEC. Through the 1990 season, Bowden had a 26-15-1 record against the SEC and from 1987-1990, his Seminole teams beat the SEC champion, co-champion or the team that had the league’s best record (Florida was ineligible to win the SEC title in 1990) every season, by an average of two touchdowns.
But Bowden admits that it would have been much tougher to finish among the top four in the nation and win at least 10 games for 14 seasons in a row in the SEC.
“We could beat their best team but week in and week out would have been very difficult,” Bowden said. “Instead of winning the ACC championship every year like we did [the first nine years in the league], we might have been second, third or fourth in the SEC. I wouldn’t be in anyone’s Hall of Fame with a bunch of third places.”
Goin called the ACC “a vehicle to win national championships.”
If there was a window for FSU to join the SEC, it may have closed last year with the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri to form a 14-team conference. Unless there is a move to four 16-team “super conferences,” the Seminoles’ only option may be to stay in the ACC or go to the Big 12.
According to official pronouncements, the sentiment is for FSU to stay put. The Big 12 also said recently is it not considering further expansion.
The ACC also doesn't want the Seminoles to go anywhere.
“Overall, I think Florida State has been an excellent member of the ACC,” Swofford said. “The relationship has been, and I would anticipate that it will continue to be, very beneficial to both parties.”
“It’s been a good fit,” Bowden added. “I believe it’s still in FSU’s best interests to remain in the ACC.”
But with 11 college programs either switching BCS conferences or moving into BCS leagues since Nebraska bolted the Big 12 for the Big Ten in 2010, sentiment can rapidly change.
“The ACC is a wonderful conference and it made sense to join that conference in 1990,” Goin said. “But the sands have shifted.”



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