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Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:57 pm to inelishaitrust
Posted on 8/10/14 at 9:57 pm to inelishaitrust
What is the "historical meaning" of "ole miss" and please don't tell me wikipidea or someone making shite up. It was the nickname for the yearbook back in the day. show me some real historical data showing that it means the plantation owners wife. Nothing more, nothing less. The majority of people starting shite have an agenda outside of OM.
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:01 pm to rebelrouser
Well thats what the Ole Miss website said for years.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:05 pm to rebelrouser
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What is the "historical meaning" of "ole miss" and please don't tell me wikipidea or someone making shite up.
If you read my post, you would have noticed that I said it was irrelevant what the former meaning of the word is because the current meaning is not negative.
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show me some real historical data showing that it means the plantation owners wife.
Hold on one second, let me search youtube real quick for video of a slave calling a plantation wife "Ole Miss."
I'm sure I can find mountains of correspondence between slaves and the "Ole Miss" on the internet too.
You want me to bring back the stone tablets the 10 commandments were written on and the ark of the covenant too?
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 10:07 pm to rebelrouser
The narrative that OM came from plantation lingo is one of the biggest loads of bullshite I've ever heard of. It's so obvious that it comes from "Ole Mississippi" that it's dumbfounding that people try and paint it as anything else.
So you're telling me that Elma Meek thought to herself, "you know what, I'm gonna name the yearbook after what slaves called the wife, that will make so much sense for the university" and then the administrators sat there and lapped it up because every single action they made was based on racism.
If you believe this story you are a dumb motherfricker
So you're telling me that Elma Meek thought to herself, "you know what, I'm gonna name the yearbook after what slaves called the wife, that will make so much sense for the university" and then the administrators sat there and lapped it up because every single action they made was based on racism.
If you believe this story you are a dumb motherfricker
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:04 pm to rebelrouser
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What is the "historical meaning" of "ole miss" and please don't tell me wikipidea or someone making shite up. It was the nickname for the yearbook back in the day. show me some real historical data showing that it means the plantation owners wife. Nothing more, nothing less. The majority of people starting shite have an agenda outside of OM.
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Interviews from the 1930s of 85 year old lady who was a former slave. If this isn't enough proof for you I don't know what is. There are hundreds of interviews from former Mississippi and slaves from the south. This was done by the Library of Confress in 1936-1939.
Interviewer: Watt McKinney
Person interviewed: Lucian Abernathy, Marvell, Arkansas
Age: 85
"I was borned in de 'streme norf part of Mississippi nigh de Tennessee line. You mought say dat it was 'bout straddle of de state line and it wasn't no great piece from where us libed to Moscow what was de station on de ole Memfis en Charston Railroad. My white folks was de Abernathys. You neber do hear 'bout many folks wid dat name these times, leastwise not ober in dis state, but dere sure used to be heap of dem Abernathys back home where I libed and I spect dat mebbe some dere yit en cose it's bound to be some of the young uns lef' dar still, but de ole uns, Mars Luch en dem, dey is all gone.
"Mars Luch, he was my young boss. Though he name was Lucian us all called him Luch and dat was who I is named for. Ole mars, he was name Will and dat was Mars Luch's pa and my ole miss, she name Miss Cynthia and young miss, her name Miss Ellen. Ole mars an' ole miss, dey just had de two chillun, Mars Luch and Miss Ellen; dat is what libed to be grown. Mars Luch, he 'bout two year older dan me and Miss Ellen, she 'bout two year older dan Mars Luch. Miss Ellen, she married er gentman from Virginny and went dar to lib and Mars Luch, he married Miss Fannie Keith.
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:28 pm to rebelrouser
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What is the "historical meaning" of "ole miss" and please don't tell me wikipidea or someone making shite up. It was the nickname for the yearbook back in the day. show me some real historical data showing that it means the plantation owners wife. Nothing more, nothing less. The majority of people starting shite have an agenda outside of OM.
As an avid collector of Ole Miss memorabilia, I can tell you that I have OM football programs from the first half of the 20th century that mentions the term was derived from the term the slaves used to describe the plantation owner's wife, the "ole missus". This was changed in the 1970's or 1980's to say it was derived from the term that Miss Elma Meek of Oxford suggested to call the yearbook in 1897. There is a LOT of validity to this concerning the yearbook name. If you read old newspapers and publications from the university the name didn't become synonymous with the school until until the early 1910's. If it had more to do with the slave term, it stands to reason the school would have been called "Ole Miss" in the late 1800's which it was NOT.
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