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re: National Titles among the SEC (all sports)

Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:36 pm to
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You're the one that already admitted that you were wrong.


about the Sugar Bowl pic.

Let it go
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

They most certainly do.


OK answer me this


How if ALL bowl games are non sanctioned NCAA events. Then how does a Naitonal Championship game winner get recognized by the NCAA?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:53 pm to
Bowl games aren't sanctioned by the NCAA? Sure about that?
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Korin



Are you serious


How long have you been a college football fan?
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 1:58 pm to
Yeah, you're gonna have to provide a source on your claim that bowl games aren't sanctioned.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:01 pm to
Georgia has 3 in football, 42, 46, and 80.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:09 pm to
Y'all don't even claim 1946.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:11 pm to
We've got a banner flying in our stadium. We claim it.
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Postseason bowls have long been a tradition and a reward for a successful football season. Bowls are an extra
contest beyond the limits established in NCAA Bylaw 17.9, and are played after the end of the regular season
as
defined by the policies and procedures contained in the NCAA Postseason Bowl Handbook. Bowls for studentathletes
involve additional practice time, physical dedication, risk of injury and, consequently, require NCAA
authorization and regulation to protect student-athlete safety and well-being. Bowls benefit sponsoring
communities, participating member institutions and student-athletes, and must have oversight by the NCAA,
bowl governance, and its members to preserve these benefits.




LINK


From the NCAA post season handbook
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:13 pm to
Post a pic then. Because as of last year, Sanford only had flags for 42 and 80.
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:13 pm to
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Sanford only had flags for 42 and 80.



I was just thinking the same thing
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:14 pm to
Uh...you just proved yourself wrong and that bowl games ARE sanctioned by the NCAA.
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:17 pm to
Read bowls games are beyond the limits set in the bylaw 17.9

Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12858 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:20 pm to
Seems like LSU needs to focus more on baseball and less on football. Ever since LSU tried to focus on football, baseball has declined.

Correlation there?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:21 pm to
And why would they keep track of supposedly unsanctioned events?

https://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2013/bowls.pdf
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10155 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:24 pm to
We won the CWS in 2009?

The 90's were the worst stretch in LSU fb history. Thank God for Skip Bertman
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:27 pm to
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The NCAA has never sanctioned an official championship in the highest level of football, now known as Division I FBS. Instead, several outside bodies award their own titles. The NCAA does not hold a championship tournament for Division I FBS football. In the past, the "national championship" went to teams that placed first in any of a number of season-ending media polls, most notable the AP Poll of writers and the Coaches Poll.

Starting in 2014, the College Football Playoff – an association of the conferences and independent schools that compete in Division I FBS and five bowl games – has arranged to place the top four teams (based on a thirteen-member committee that seeds and selects the teams similarly to the Final Four) into two semifinal bowl games and the winners go on to compete in the College Football Championship Game. The winner of the championship game receives a trophy; since the NCAA awards no national championship for Division I FBS football, this trophy does not denote NCAA as other NCAA college sports national championship trophies do
.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:28 pm to
Now you're moving the goalposts from bowl games to championships.
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:30 pm to
Are bowl games used to determine a Naitonal Championship? SOOOOO if the National Championship game is a NON SANCTIONED event how the frick can all the other bowl games be sanctioned NCAA events?

Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
Georgia Southern Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1917 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:31 pm to
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A college football national championship in the highest level of play in the United States, currently the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), is a designation awarded annually by various third-party organizations to their selection(s) of the best college football team(s). Division I FBS football is the only NCAA sport in which a yearly champion is not determined by an NCAA-sanctioned championship event. Because of this, it is sometimes unofficially referred to as a "mythical national championship".[1][2][3][4]

Due to the lack of an official NCAA championship, determining the nation's top college football team has often engendered controversy.[5] A championship team is independently declared by various individuals and organizations, often referred to as "selectors".[6][7] These choices are sometimes not unanimous.[5] While the NCAA has never officially endorsed a championship team, it has documented the choices of several selectors in the official NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Records.[8] In addition, various third party analysts have independently published their own lists of what they have determined to be the most legitimate selections for each season. These are also often at odds with each other as well as individual school's claims on national championships, which, for any particular season, may or may not correlate to the selections published elsewhere.

Currently, two widely recognized national champion selectors are the Associated Press, which conducts a poll of sportswriters, and the Coaches' Poll, a poll of American Football Coaches Association active coaches from around the country.
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