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Malzahn's Offensive "Scheme"
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:33 pm
We all troll each other from time to time. Most of it, I think is all in good fun to see if we can get a meltdown from somebody. However, I have seen one thing said over and over again, that I believe some people actually believe.
Some continuously say that Players like Marshall and Mason would not be successful if it were not for Malzahn's offensive scheme. And Malzahn's scheme is the only reason Auburn had a good year last year.
I admit I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but isn't that what an offensive coordinator is supposed to do? Come up with a way to get more yards and put more points up on the board?
Isn't every offensive formation a scheme in and of itself? I mean why all the derision towards his offense? Nobody says anything about the Wishbone, or the Veer, or the "I" formation. The HUNH is just another offensive "scheme" if that is what you want to call it. It is a way to make defenses adjust to try to stop it, and, so far...nobody has been very successful at stopping it.
At one time the forward pass was considered trickery and a passing phase. I say give Malzahn credit where credit is due. He is an innovator and is changing the way the game is being played. Who knows for how long...but for now he should be considered a premier offensive mind. I like the way his offense plays better than Oregons.
Some continuously say that Players like Marshall and Mason would not be successful if it were not for Malzahn's offensive scheme. And Malzahn's scheme is the only reason Auburn had a good year last year.
I admit I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but isn't that what an offensive coordinator is supposed to do? Come up with a way to get more yards and put more points up on the board?
Isn't every offensive formation a scheme in and of itself? I mean why all the derision towards his offense? Nobody says anything about the Wishbone, or the Veer, or the "I" formation. The HUNH is just another offensive "scheme" if that is what you want to call it. It is a way to make defenses adjust to try to stop it, and, so far...nobody has been very successful at stopping it.
At one time the forward pass was considered trickery and a passing phase. I say give Malzahn credit where credit is due. He is an innovator and is changing the way the game is being played. Who knows for how long...but for now he should be considered a premier offensive mind. I like the way his offense plays better than Oregons.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:34 pm to DawgsLife
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I admit I am not the brightest tool in the shed,
For the first time ever, I really mean it when I say I stopped reading here.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:35 pm to DawgsLife
It is clearly a HS offense.....
That college coaches have trouble stopping....
That changes every year to fit the personnel.
That college coaches have trouble stopping....
That changes every year to fit the personnel.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:36 pm to DawgsLife
If this is a post sucking up to Auburn because yall have been attempting (unsuccesfully) to troll them the last two weeks, it is still weak.
Every successful offensive minded coach / coordinator tweaks his system to fit the players available, or recruits players that fit perfectly in his system. This is not some groundbreaking discovery. The ability to adapt is why they are successful coaches. Not sure why a thread needed to be made about it..
Every successful offensive minded coach / coordinator tweaks his system to fit the players available, or recruits players that fit perfectly in his system. This is not some groundbreaking discovery. The ability to adapt is why they are successful coaches. Not sure why a thread needed to be made about it..
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:36 pm to DawgsLife
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I admit I am not the brightest tool in the shed
This is siq quote material right here
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:36 pm to DawgsLife
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Some continuously say that Players like Marshall and Mason would not be successful if it were not for Malzahn's offensive scheme. And Malzahn's scheme is the only reason Auburn had a good year last year.
I admit I am not the brightest tool in the shed, but isn't that what an offensive coordinator is supposed to do? Come up with a way to get more yards and put more points up on the board?
Isn't every offensive formation a scheme in and of itself? I mean why all the derision towards his offense? Nobody says anything about the Wishbone, or the Veer, or the "I" formation. The HUNH is just another offensive "scheme" if that is what you want to call it. It is a way to make defenses adjust to try to stop it, and, so far...nobody has been very successful at stopping it.
At one time the forward pass was considered trickery and a passing phase. I say give Malzahn credit where credit is due. He is an innovator and is changing the way the game is being played. Who knows for how long...but for now he should be considered a premier offensive mind. I like the way his offense plays better than Oregons.
Everything you have said is accurate...but haters hate. That is what they do.
AU is going to be just fine this year on offense and will be next year too.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:37 pm to DawgsLife
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I admit I am not the brightest tool in the shed,
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:40 pm to DawgsLife
Look at Sumlin. He has made a career of pass fist, run later. His offense is 60-65 pass. He gets JFF, they run for two years.
He will pass again...thats what the good ones do.
Look at Spurrier. He passed at UF but had better RBs at USce...now he runs more.
He will pass again...thats what the good ones do.
Look at Spurrier. He passed at UF but had better RBs at USce...now he runs more.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:41 pm to DawgsLife
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Some continuously say that Players like Marshall and Mason would not be successful if it were not for Malzahn's offensive scheme. And Malzahn's scheme is the only reason Auburn had a good year last year.
I admit I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but isn't that what an offensive coordinator is supposed to do? Come up with a way to get more yards and put more points up on the board?
It is every bit the nonsense you have said it is.
Won't change anything, once the propaganda's in motion it's hard to stop.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:50 pm to DawgsLife
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I admit I am not the brightest tool in the shed, but isn't that what an offensive coordinator is supposed to do? Come up with a way to get more yards and put more points up on the board?
You are absolutely right. I mean, it ain't rocket surgery.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:22 pm to DawgsLife
Lemme get this thread started..
Marshall would absolutely suck at most any school who doesn't run the type of offense that Auburn does.
Mason is the man, love watching him, but pretty much any running back is gonna put up stats like his with the way they use him and how many touches they get. I guarantee whoever runs the ball for Auburn this year will replicate Mason's stats.
Marshall would absolutely suck at most any school who doesn't run the type of offense that Auburn does.
Mason is the man, love watching him, but pretty much any running back is gonna put up stats like his with the way they use him and how many touches they get. I guarantee whoever runs the ball for Auburn this year will replicate Mason's stats.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:36 pm to DawgsLife
All plays use "trickery".
One of the best plays near the goal line that Bama ran to beat AU in 2009 was the pass to a FB off play action. We bit, the "trickery" worked.
In 2013, when Bama had 4th and 1, I really thought they would play action. They chose to run up the middle. If I had AJ as my QB I would put the game in his hands, but they made a different choice.
What Gus does is run plays that have several option off the same look. He really prefers to run the ball if there are 6 or less in the box. Gus also likes to go fast if we are near hash with a first down. Most of his pass plays are play action.
At the end of the day, you still have to have athletes execute whatever the play is, whatever the system is, and understand the terminology and the reads
One of the best plays near the goal line that Bama ran to beat AU in 2009 was the pass to a FB off play action. We bit, the "trickery" worked.
In 2013, when Bama had 4th and 1, I really thought they would play action. They chose to run up the middle. If I had AJ as my QB I would put the game in his hands, but they made a different choice.
What Gus does is run plays that have several option off the same look. He really prefers to run the ball if there are 6 or less in the box. Gus also likes to go fast if we are near hash with a first down. Most of his pass plays are play action.
At the end of the day, you still have to have athletes execute whatever the play is, whatever the system is, and understand the terminology and the reads
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:48 pm to DawgsLife
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I mean why all the derision towards his offense?
Because it ruins what people thought football was.
People thought football was two brilliant minds who would play a game of chess after every snap with the pieces they recruited.
Gus's style of offense makes the game less about how badass of a Xs and Os guy your coach is and more about how in condition your team is and how well they know your system.
Which honestly I much prefer to the old chess style of football. Saban showed the world the chess style of football can get really boring if one coach is the Michael Jordan of football coaching. With the HUNH, it doesn't matter how smart Saban is, he is only as good as the condition of talent he has on the field.
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:57 pm to DawgsLife
I will admit I was wrong about Gustav. The man is a brilliant offensive coach.
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