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re: Arkansas' Never Ending New Facilities (2015)

Posted on 7/9/14 at 6:58 am to
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 6:58 am to
I don't understand why they're not more aware of what they had with Petrino. The guy is like the world champion of play calling. He really is that good. They want to lambast him for not recruiting well, but neither is Bert. They're Arkansas. No home-grown talent in a small state surrounded by states with talent that are dominated by in-state recruiting powerhouses. Their strategy should be to find a coach who just coaches the daylights out of everyone else around... like Petrino.
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:25 am to
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I don't understand why they're not more aware of what they had with Petrino. The guy is like the world champion of play calling. He really is that good. They want to lambast him for not recruiting well, but neither is Bert. They're Arkansas. No home-grown talent in a small state surrounded by states with talent that are dominated by in-state recruiting powerhouses. Their strategy should be to find a coach who just coaches the daylights out of everyone else around... like Petrino
but somehow Arkansas owns (and it's not even close) the series record against the aggy's....hmmmmmmmm
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:27 am to
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I don't understand why they're not more aware of what they had with Petrino. The guy is like the world champion of play calling. He really is that good. They want to lambast him for not recruiting well, but neither is Bert. They're Arkansas. No home-grown talent in a small state surrounded by states with talent that are dominated by in-state recruiting powerhouses. Their strategy should be to find a coach who just coaches the daylights out of everyone else around... like Petrino.


Petrino had one really solid class. That was due to in state talent. Petrino recruited skill players, but still not at an elite level. Bert is recruiting from the inside out, having landed some of the nations best offensive linemen in his two classes so far. He also landed, according to 247, the best available RB in 2013.

Arkansas lacks in state talent, but in the four years we have own or shared the West title, our roster has been littered with many in state players.

This year alone, we will likely sign 7-8 guys in state. So far, Arkansas has 6 guys committed from in state, with 3 of those being 4 stars according to 247.

This year is probably the deepest talent pool Arkansas has seen in possibly, ever. There is a top 44 on 247 with all of those guys holding D1 offers. Not all big name schools, but that's a ton of athletes compared to what Arkansas usually churns out. The top 15 are all major college worthy.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:22 am to
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I don't understand why they're not more aware of what they had with Petrino. The guy is like the world champion of play calling. He really is that good.


You won't find a single hog fan that would disagree with that. We know he was an offensive genius.

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They want to lambast him for not recruiting well, but neither is Bert.


This couldn't be further from the truth. Bert's classes have been much better thus far, IMO. But what really sets him apart is player retention. Petrino's classes would have a handful of guys not make it to campus or they'd not make it over a year in the program. Look at our junior and senior classes and you'll see there aren't a ton of guys left and some of them are recent JUCO transfers.

Bert's star ratings have been pretty good and this year's class looks like it'll be really quite good for us. But the best part about it is the fact that he's getting better kids than Petrino did. Less grade risks, less character risks.

What he's doing is establishing a 5 yr program where almost everyone will redshirt. That doesn't sound like much to lots of people, because they're used to that. But Arkansas has always failed to keep deep classes together for 4-5 years. But he's redshirted more guys in 2 years (expected) than Petrino ever did. Having more 4th yr juniors and 5th yr seniors will make up for some of the talent discrepancies Arkansas will always face in this conference.

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Their strategy should be to find a coach who just coaches the daylights out of everyone else around... like Petrino.



Petrino never emphasized defense. The best athletes were always placed on offense. I don't think that's bad, but you can't ALWAYS put the best talent on offense. Bert is way more balanced in terms of where he's situating the talent on both sides of the ball, IMO.

If Bert doesn't turn this ship around in another year or two, I'd be fine with going back to a more wide-open offense. But there's no telling what Bert will be able to do given enough time. The people writing him off after last season are showing their shortsightedness more than anything. It takes way, way longer to rebuild a program from the depths Petrino left it in.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5607 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:10 am to
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No home-grown talent in a small state


I don't really agree with the first part of this in terms of quality. Arkansas usually has very good and under-rated talent, usually the only busts are the ones that are from rich areas that get a lot of publicity (sorry Aubies). I can name quite a few NFL players off the top if my head from Arkansas that were 3* and below just in the past 5-10 years.

The second part about a small state is true and is the killer. We just don't have the quantity of SEC athletes on a yearly basis to fill out team like Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama.
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