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re: How quick will South Carolina fall on their face when Spurrier leaves

Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:37 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:37 am to
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TL;DR version: USC is going to be fine after Spurrier retires due to infrastructure, population, leadership and success over rivals.


Potentially yes, but to think the next guy is not going to miss a beat after spurrier isn't a given. UT had better history, tradition, fan support, etc. when Fulmer left but they've gone 5 years now either being mediocre or downright atrocious. The pieces may be in place, but none of that matters if you don't have the right guy.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5897 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:41 am to
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Potentially yes, but to think the next guy is not going to miss a beat after spurrier isn't a given. UT had better history, tradition, fan support, etc. when Fulmer left but they've gone 5 years now either being mediocre or downright atrocious. The pieces may be in place, but none of that matters if you don't have the right guy.



The two things that USC has that UTK didn't/doesn't are strong, competent leadership and a population that produces football players. UTK had tradition, but we've seen that tradition can get trumped by leadership. And I wouldn't argue that UTK had better fan support. They have a bigger stadium, yes, but USC's fan support takes a backseat to no one.

Having to rely solely on out-of-state kids to support your program can create a lot of instability if things go wrong. USC certainly supplements with the GA/FL/NC kids, but the heart of those teams the last few years were all home-grown, with the (notable) exception of Shaw.

Plus, I specifically mentioned that USC can't withstand a shitty hire. I never said that they aren't going to miss a beat, just that they're in good position.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 8:43 am
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
2369 posts
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:26 am to
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Potentially yes, but to think the next guy is not going to miss a beat after spurrier isn't a given. UT had better history, tradition, fan support, etc. when Fulmer left but they've gone 5 years now either being mediocre or downright atrocious. The pieces may be in place, but none of that matters if you don't have the right guy.




Fulmer didn't leave. He was pushed out after years of being good, but not as great as they had been like their hungry fan base wanted. UT was a historic power that got full of themselves and thought they deserved better than what they had. So they pushed out a coach who had been giving them competitive teams for years after a couple of stumble seasons. The resulting shite show was inevitable. The pressure to perform up to fan expectations was a great motivator for coaches to not want that job. If you can get rid of a coach who had been winning what incentive is there for a new coach who has to follow that up?

So which of our schools is poised for repeating this history?
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