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re: Interesting hoax message going around about cancer
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:08 pm to Charlestondawg
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:08 pm to Charlestondawg
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Didn't work for Steve Jobs. That's worth repeating too.
The Steve Jobs example is extremely irresponsible.
His type of cancer is very hard to detect, it was caught very late, it's believed he had cancer since his early 20s, some say late teens from working with very strong toxins since age 14.
The type of cancer he had has an exceedingly low survival rate, regardless of the method of care.
We drop dollars in buckets to find a cure, instead we should be focusing on changing the way we live. The food industry is criminal, the way stress ourselves to work-to-live is unnecessary, and the toxic elements we introduce to ourselves thanks to a cultural system that doesn't value the planet all play huge roles in causing cancer.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:17 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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causing cancer.
i don't think anybody will argue that a healthy lifestyle decreases cancer risks. But once I have it, I will be seeing a traditional doctor.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:22 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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The type of cancer he had has an exceedingly low survival rate, regardless of the method of care.
This is false. Steve Jobs did not have adenocarcinoma of the pancreas, the type of cancer you are referring to with an exceedingly low survival rate. He had an islet-cell neuroendocrine tumor, a rare but very treatable form of cancer. They are often benign and the ones that are malignant like his grow very slowly with no early metastasis. It is believed around one in a hundred people live their entire adult lives with tiny benign neuroendocrine pancreas tumors. The five year survival rate for malignant ones is almost 60%, compared to less than 3% for adenocarcinoma of the pancreas.
At the stage Jobs' was found at, the five and ten year survival rates are both over 70%.
He was diagnosed in 2003, sought alternative treatment for 9 months while getting worse and then turned to modern medicine which fought to give him another 8 years. By the time he went back to his doctors, his five year survival rate had been cut in half.
Had the man had a whipple procedure when diagnosed, he'd almost certainly be with us today.
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We drop dollars in buckets to find a cure, instead we should be focusing on changing the way we live. The food industry is criminal, the way stress ourselves to work-to-live is unnecessary, and the toxic elements we introduce to ourselves thanks to a cultural system that doesn't value the planet all play huge roles in causing cancer.
While you are once again being overly dramatic, yes we do need to focus on diet. I know of no doctor who would say otherwise.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 5/28/14 at 12:28 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Interesting hoax message going around about cancerquote:Didn't work for Steve Jobs. That's worth repeating too. The Steve Jobs example is extremely irresponsible. His type of cancer is very hard to detect, it was caught very late, it's believed he had cancer since his early 20s, some say late teens from working with very strong toxins since age 14. The type of cancer he had has an exceedingly low survival rate, regardless of the method of care. We drop dollars in buckets to find a cure, instead we should be focusing on changing the way we live. The food industry is criminal, the way stress ourselves to work-to-live is unnecessary, and the toxic elements we introduce to ourselves thanks to a cultural system that doesn't value the planet all play huge roles in causing cancer.
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Summed it up rather well, modern medicine is fantastic for diagnosing disease and treating trauma but not so good when it comes to prevention and cure, as I stated in a earlier post, the connection between chronic disease and diet/lifestyle is no mere coincidence. Modern/traditional medicine is about treatment once the disease has been diagnosed and you can't really blame the Drs it's what they're taught. I do think the younger Drs are more open to alternative methods of treatment and finding out what is actually causing disease.
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