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re: Does the SEC only get 1 National Seed this year
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:26 pm to Rebels_to_Cover
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:26 pm to Rebels_to_Cover
I think the whole baseball system needs a revamp especially with SOS and the RPI which is a lot different in baseball. Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids. Baseball is a more season long type of sport compared to basketball. So if ULL doesn't win the tourney and the Sun Belt gets 2 teams in at the expense of other more worthy teams, how is that fair? Only one sun belt team deserves to get in.
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:27 pm to nicholastiger
What sport are we talking about in this thread?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:42 pm to nicholastiger
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Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids.
That's a long time honored tradition in the NCAA that is never going to change. I agree, it should change, but it never will, not in college ball of any sort.
Two extreme examples ...
SCAR is ranked number one in college basketball in '70 I believe it was, ahead of perennial #1 UCLA. We go, 25-3, 14-0 in ACC conference play but lose the ACC tourney championship and do not get invited to the big dance.
NC State, Jim Valvano's miracle year, '83 was it? 17-10 regular season, 8-6 in conference play, they win the ACC tourney and proceed to win the National Championship over Phi Slamma Jamma of Houston ... thus re-enforcing the Conference Tourney Champ tradition of the NCAA.
I remember a few years ago in baseball, Cal St Fullerton had a horrible regular season, caught fire in their tournament and won it, made the NCAAs, ended-up winning the national championship by beating us in the semi finals and Texas in the finals. I think that was the CWS where CSF's pitcher threw 300 pitches in two consecutive games combined to beat us and then Texas, and afterwards Augie showed his arse and refused to come out and shake hands.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:52 pm to nicholastiger
quote:The question is not why they get auto bids, as it is the conference that gets the auto bid and decides whether that does to the tournament winner or the regular season champ. The real question is why do conferences choose to have tournaments rather than simply let it go to the regular season champ.
Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids.
In leagues where you don't play a full round robin schedule, there is a fairness aspect in not having the auto bid decided by quirks in scheduling. Would you want the SEC title decided by who gets Missouri on their schedule vs. who doesn't?
The other factor is that having the conference tournament keeps teams honest. This is less a factor in the SEC than some other leagues, but, without a conference tournament and a way to play yourself into the NCAA tournament, a lot of teams could decide in mid-season to start playing for next year, and give playing time to guys who wouldn't be in the lineup if the objective is to win now. That would result in a sort of scheduling imbalance, where the contenders who faced these teams early in the season would be at a disadvantage to teams who faced them when they were just playing out the string (like Missouri was when Arkansas swept them).
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:46 pm to nicholastiger
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Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids
With the present day expanded fields in both baseball and basketball, this is a moot question. Regular season champs get in on "body of work" regardless of conference tournament outcome. These conference tournaments DO give lesser teams the chance to get in and makes for an exciting finish and factors in to seedings. And of course there's the money grab, for basketball, anyway.
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