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Would you have drafted Michael Sam?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:59 pm
If it's my organization, I wouldn't.
Two reasons...
1. I think his stats were inflated due to big numbers against poor OL's and his performance at the combine shows he possesses below-average lower body power and speed. Basically I don't think he's all that good.
2. He's gay. I don't mean this in the "I'm against gay individuals and gay lifestyle/marriage/etc..." I'm pro gay marriage and don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home.
I mean this in the sense that, if it's my organization, I don't want the potential baggage that comes with this. I don't want to be picketed by gay rights groups like its the grand opening of a new chick-fil-a every time someone thinks he's being mistreated. If he doesn't start a game...it's because he's gay. If he doesn't get enough play time...it's because he's gay. I decide he's not that good and we cut/trade him...it was because he's gay. We don't renegotiate his contract to pay him more...it was because he's gay.
I wouldn't want to risk having my organization exposed to being called bigoted at the drop of a hat.
That being said, I hope he has a great career. He's going to need to work pretty hard though because he lacks what I would consider to be professional level strength/power/speed to be effective in the league, and he can't afford to give people anymore excuses to cut him.
Two reasons...
1. I think his stats were inflated due to big numbers against poor OL's and his performance at the combine shows he possesses below-average lower body power and speed. Basically I don't think he's all that good.
2. He's gay. I don't mean this in the "I'm against gay individuals and gay lifestyle/marriage/etc..." I'm pro gay marriage and don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home.
I mean this in the sense that, if it's my organization, I don't want the potential baggage that comes with this. I don't want to be picketed by gay rights groups like its the grand opening of a new chick-fil-a every time someone thinks he's being mistreated. If he doesn't start a game...it's because he's gay. If he doesn't get enough play time...it's because he's gay. I decide he's not that good and we cut/trade him...it was because he's gay. We don't renegotiate his contract to pay him more...it was because he's gay.
I wouldn't want to risk having my organization exposed to being called bigoted at the drop of a hat.
That being said, I hope he has a great career. He's going to need to work pretty hard though because he lacks what I would consider to be professional level strength/power/speed to be effective in the league, and he can't afford to give people anymore excuses to cut him.
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:01 pm to nb200016
No
Because he isn't an NFL caliber player
But I would sign him as a FA
Because he isn't an NFL caliber player
But I would sign him as a FA
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:02 pm to nb200016
No
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:02 pm to nb200016
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:02 pm to nb200016
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1. I think his stats were inflated due to big numbers against poor OL's and his performance at the combine shows he possesses below-average lower body power and speed. Basically I don't think he's all that good.
This x 1000. You take out Vandy, Arky St and UF, none with dominant OTs, and Michael Sam had like 1.5 sacks and 2.5 TFL. Not SEC POY #s and not draftable numbers. Add in his combine #s and he doesn't deserve to get drafted over guys like Jeffcoat from UTx
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2. He's gay. I don't mean this in the "I'm against gay individuals and gay lifestyle/marriage/etc..." I'm pro gay marriage and don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home.
Nobody gives a shite about this 2 years from now. He will just be the gay guy
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:03 pm to nb200016
You're scared of 2 salt shakers on the same table? You're definitely a homophobe!
ETA: wouldn't have drafted him bc of his lack of talent (9 of his 11.5 sacks came in 2 non-SEC games), and the circus that's surrounding him.
ETA: wouldn't have drafted him bc of his lack of talent (9 of his 11.5 sacks came in 2 non-SEC games), and the circus that's surrounding him.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:05 pm to nb200016
In the 7th round? Yes.
Its not a valuable pick anyway and you secure his rights vs udfa market.
Fisher is a strong leader in the locker room and well respected in the league
Its not a valuable pick anyway and you secure his rights vs udfa market.
Fisher is a strong leader in the locker room and well respected in the league
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:07 pm to nb200016
No
I would not draft a openly gay player.
I would not draft a openly gay player.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:07 pm to nb200016
No, because he is to situational in his abilities on the Rams already stout defensive line.
Who am I going to tell "take a seat" on a passing down so Mike Sam can play? Long or Quinn? Terrible pick for the Rams.
Who am I going to tell "take a seat" on a passing down so Mike Sam can play? Long or Quinn? Terrible pick for the Rams.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:07 pm to nb200016
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:09 pm to nb200016
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he possesses below-average lower body power and speed
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:13 pm to nb200016
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If it's my organization
There's little chance you'll ever have an organization, so you can sleep well knowing you won't have to make the tough decisions.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:14 pm to nb200016
The NFL was not going to let him go undrafted, as it would have been bad PR for them.
He'll get cut most likely anyway.
If I were a team I wouldn't care about him being gay, but I would care about the media shitstorm that it brings.
ESPN and that national mainstream media have pretty much made it known they are champions of liberal social causes and hype these things up as much as possible, and I wouldn't want to have to deal with all that crap.
He'll get cut most likely anyway.
If I were a team I wouldn't care about him being gay, but I would care about the media shitstorm that it brings.
ESPN and that national mainstream media have pretty much made it known they are champions of liberal social causes and hype these things up as much as possible, and I wouldn't want to have to deal with all that crap.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:22 pm to nb200016
Hell naw, theres plenty of defensive ends that are better than him. He's like Jason Collins, the only reason hes famous is because he came out. I don't want to see gay rights activists every 5 seconds either.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:25 pm to nb200016
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:31 pm to nb200016
Of course - isn't he a good football player?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:46 pm to nb200016
No. Because I don't think he's big or fast enough to draft. There were dozens upon dozens of better picks than him.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 8:54 pm to nb200016
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I'm pro gay marriage and don't care what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home.
Would you care if the consenting adults were siblings? What if she was 16 and he was 69?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:17 pm to nb200016
No bc he'll be too distracted with Obama calling him to congratulate him on every move he makes.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:25 pm to nb200016
I don't think it's fair to speculate on this young man's sexuality.
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