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Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:41 am to GoldenDawg
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:41 am to GoldenDawg
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It is actually a pretty huge deal to have one of our ambassadors murdered and our embassy attacked
Agreed.
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To sit around and not do anything while it is happening is also a big deal.
But didn't at least one of the independent investigations conclude that because of the location of the attack there wasn't a whole lot that could have been done?
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To lie about it simply to cover your own arse is deplorable and a big deal.
Agreed, and the administration acknowledged that and apologized. Is it something a President should be impeached for? I don't think so.
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To throw an innocent film maker to the wolves as part of the lie is a
Well, it was documented that there were already protests throughout the Musliim world over the film. And there were witnesses on the ground in Benghazi that have stated some of the protests going on were over the film.
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:53 am to The Spleen
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But didn't at least one of the independent investigations conclude that because of the location of the attack there wasn't a whole lot that could have been done?
"independent investigation" is in the eye of the beholder, of course. And I haven't been following it all that closely, but it's my understanding that more than one of the "independent investigations" found otherwise, coupled with the fact that there has been a lot of hiding of communication which is still only being provided in pieces parts. That kind of response just fuels the conspiracy theorists.
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Agreed, and the administration acknowledged that and apologized. Is it something a President should be impeached for? I don't think so.
I'm not aware that the administration admitted that they lied to the American public, the news media and to investigators and then apologized for the lies/cover-up. They may have, but I don't recall seeing that anywhere. As to whether lying about the cause of our embassy being attacked and destroyed and our ambassador murdered, simply to look better during an election, is enough to impeach a President, I guess that depends on what he knew, when he knew it, and what he did about it. And if he didn't know anything, that's kind of disturbing as well.
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Well, it was documented that there were already protests throughout the Musliim world over the film. And there were witnesses on the ground in Benghazi that have stated some of the protests going on were over the film.
Which made it a very convenient lie for them, didn't it? And completely false, which you have already said they admitted and apologized about, so I'm not sure what your argument is here.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:54 am to The Spleen
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Well, it was documented that there were already protests throughout the Musliim world over the film. And there were witnesses on the ground in Benghazi that have stated some of the protests going on were over the film.
that doesn't negate the fact that they knew this was not about the protest over the video before they said "it was a protest over the video" and lied about it purposefully.
the recent emails discovered admitted as much.
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Agreed, and the administration acknowledged that and apologized. Is it something a President should be impeached for? I don't think so.
but at the end of the day i agree with this for the most part.
Posted on 5/7/14 at 9:02 am to The Spleen
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because of the location of the attack there wasn't a whole lot that could have been done?
The answer to this will probably never be known, but the ambassador died from smoke inhalation. He wasn't shot or directly killed by the attackers in some other fashion. He died hiding in a safe room waiting for help that had been requested but wasn't sent and that's a disgrace.
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