Started By
Message
Has Affirmative Action caused HBCUs to crumble?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:02 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:02 am
Has it eliminated the need for HBCUs because minorities have more options for higher education?
8
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:03 am to Porter Osborne Jr
No. Most blacks secretly love segregation.
ETA: They also love equal rights, which they should. They like both even more though.
ETA: They also love equal rights, which they should. They like both even more though.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:06 am to Porter Osborne Jr
There are still a couple of good HBCU's. Howard, Morehouse and Spelman are still respected. Most of the others... not so much.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:08 am to Porter Osborne Jr
AA isn't as prevalent as you think. I know I didn't get into Alabama because of AA.
But yes, The state schools are hurting the HBCUs tremendously.
But yes, The state schools are hurting the HBCUs tremendously.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:20 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Yes and no. Affirmative action and quotas are a part of it but much of it the increased non-legislated opennesses we've seen in recent years.
It used to be that average or good black students attended HBCUs because they couldn't attend anywhere else and then with integration and AA many still chose HBCUs because they were easier to pay for or they felt more comfortable/welcomed.
Now with society more open than ever and with more scholarship/financing opportunities the very bottom of the barrel are choosing HBCUs while the rest are attending better and more integrated schools.
It used to be that average or good black students attended HBCUs because they couldn't attend anywhere else and then with integration and AA many still chose HBCUs because they were easier to pay for or they felt more comfortable/welcomed.
Now with society more open than ever and with more scholarship/financing opportunities the very bottom of the barrel are choosing HBCUs while the rest are attending better and more integrated schools.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:22 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I don't know what the all of the underlying causes are for HBCU's declining. I do know that in this year's state budget, funding for Alabama State University dropped from 40 to 30 million, and they were the only school to see such a significant (25%!) cut in the state.
My personal speculation (as a complete nonexpert) is because ASU alums aren't well represented in the Alabama state legislature, so when there's cuts that need to be made in spending, the hatchet swings disproportionately harder on them.
I received a full-ride offer from Howard (as a black male) but opted for Alabama instead. One of my main concerns was that HBCU's are often losing and gaining and then relosing their accreditation. Last I heard, the engineering programs at Alabama's HBCU's aren't ABET accredited. Honestly, considering their comparative lack of resources, the only legitimate reason I can see for attending an HBCU is because you want to experience what life not as a minority is like, which is understandable. I was the single black kid in all of my honors and AP classes and at times that was annoying.
My personal speculation (as a complete nonexpert) is because ASU alums aren't well represented in the Alabama state legislature, so when there's cuts that need to be made in spending, the hatchet swings disproportionately harder on them.
I received a full-ride offer from Howard (as a black male) but opted for Alabama instead. One of my main concerns was that HBCU's are often losing and gaining and then relosing their accreditation. Last I heard, the engineering programs at Alabama's HBCU's aren't ABET accredited. Honestly, considering their comparative lack of resources, the only legitimate reason I can see for attending an HBCU is because you want to experience what life not as a minority is like, which is understandable. I was the single black kid in all of my honors and AP classes and at times that was annoying.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:53 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I do think it's a shame that some of these schools are failing. I hope that they can be either incorporated into larger schools in the area or preserved somehow (for instance Allen and Benedict here in Columbia are basically on the same campus). There is some great history at a lot of them.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:47 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
No. It is because some( certainly not all) HBCU's are run by crooks have to take their "cut" before the money is handed to the school.
South Carolina St. is one example. How the hell do you not have a CPA in the administrative staff looking over the money? It's maddening. Not to mention the fact they just had a shooting on campus a couple months ago where a kid died. Hell even my little podunk school in Florence didn't have these problems.
I was looking at SCSU coming out of HS( mom is an alum) but there's a whole lot of bullshite going on there and every couple months bad news is coming out of Orangeburg. Not worth the trouble imo.
South Carolina St. is one example. How the hell do you not have a CPA in the administrative staff looking over the money? It's maddening. Not to mention the fact they just had a shooting on campus a couple months ago where a kid died. Hell even my little podunk school in Florence didn't have these problems.
I was looking at SCSU coming out of HS( mom is an alum) but there's a whole lot of bullshite going on there and every couple months bad news is coming out of Orangeburg. Not worth the trouble imo.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 7:53 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
Has Affirmative Action caused HBCUs to crumble?
Who gives a frick about HBCU's, they can suck my dick.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News