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re: What do people get out of going to church on Easter once a year?

Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:24 pm to
I am not a christian, but if god decided to control the actions of every individual there wouldn't be any life. Or at least any point to it. We would all just be some big simulation. So he didn't have control over what Hitler did
Posted by Mattwells90
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:29 pm to
You keep insinuating that god sends people to hell. We all have a choice to go or not.


And as for the Christian church causing more death than anything else, you gotta link for that?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:33 pm to
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I am not a christian, but if god decided to control the actions of every individual there wouldn't be any life. Or at least any point to it. We would all just be some big simulation. So he didn't have control over what Hitler did


Not true, he could give us "free will" just without the capacity to do evil. We could do anything we wanted within the context of a sinless world. Do christians consider it a lack of free will that god didnt give us the ability to fly? Our free will is determined by our state of existence. If we were created incapable of sinning, it would be no different than how we view our inability to fly. We just cant do it, therefore it doesnt violate our free will.

Besides, he is omnipotent. All we have is the illusion of free will if even one omnipotent consciousness exists. He knew what Hitler would do from the dawn of creation and created him anyway.

This is a big part of why I dont believe, christian doctrine when carried all the way to its logical conclusion is just a philosophical and logical mess that the church has spent 2000 years trying to wiggle around.
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