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re: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution

Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:14 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:14 am to
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We know why random mutations occur. It's just an imperfect process where DNA has been messed up.


This is pretty unsatisfactory. I'm not hugely invested in the creation vs evolution debate. But to say that "mutation happen, the end" doesn't explain anything.

A mutation would not move a non-seeing organism to a seeing organism with one mutation. And a mutation which wasn't useful, we are told will disappear over time. So, how do you get large changes in an organism through random mutations assuming non-utilitarian mutations don't ultimately survive?
Posted by NATidefan
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:27 am to
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So, how do you get large changes in an organism through random mutations assuming non-utilitarian mutations don't ultimately survive?


Because the useful ones survive.... Duh.

Sure you can't go from a "non-seeing organism" to a "seeing one" with one mutation.. but with one mutation you can have one develop very limited and minute form of vision. And believe me, it's easier to frick a girl if you can find them and also to grab a bite to eat afterwards... so it would be a mutation that would probably be useful and carry on. And over time mutate eventually into different forms of eyes. In areas where it is so dark you can't see... that mutation may not live on... which has been witnessed with animals in caves or in the deepest parts of the ocean. They've developed other sensory abilities...
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 12:48 am
Posted by DCRebel
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/7/14 at 7:25 am to
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This is pretty unsatisfactory. I'm not hugely invested in the creation vs evolution debate. But to say that "mutation happen, the end" doesn't explain anything.


Just because you're not satisfied by an answer doesn't preclude it from being right.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108972 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 8:08 am to
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A mutation would not move a non-seeing organism to a seeing organism with one mutation. And a mutation which wasn't useful, we are told will disappear over time. So, how do you get large changes in an organism through random mutations assuming non-utilitarian mutations don't ultimately survive?


As I said, watch Cosmos. It goes into detail how and why the eye evolved the way it did.
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