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re: moral equivalency? hunh vs flopping
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:56 pm to Rabern57
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:56 pm to Rabern57
quote:ok, to summarize, you dont like a practice that is allowable or at least not stoppable under current rules because you think its detrimental to the game and you want a rule to stop it. i can respect that. rules change with the game.
Well the HUNH is a different situation. There isn't anything showing it causes more injuries. In fact, the data shows the NFL causes more injuries than the HUNH and that is what Saban says the rules should be modeled after. So there is nothing to justify a rule. Players on one or two teams flopping shows its not the HUNH but instead their coach's coaching. Whether it be the game plan to flop or not conditioning them well. But they still need rules to protect those players from being on the field when they are falling constantly. Like benching them until they are cleared or a set period because they are not in condition to be on the field. If the entire team is having problems then the coach and school needs to be held accountable.
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Also it even makes the players look injury prone and can hurt their NFL stock all because their coaches made them fake injuries.
hope this fella doesn't want an nfl career. i like how you see auburn d players in confusion trying to substitute, swain looks to the sideline then falls like a brick.
quote:a) where do you get 70%? b) if you are referring to the 10 second rule, opposition to that is not the same thing as saying nothing needs to change relative to the hunh. guys like richt opposed the rule but wants refs to take it back over like in the pros. im going to require a study regarding coaches opinions on the hunh before i can accept your hypothesis im afraid
As far as being ethical, 70%+ of coaches and most of the coaches from the big conferences agree that the HUNH is ethical and shouldn't have rules to stop it. Including ones who don't run it. You will not find a coach that thinks teams should fake injuries or that it is ethical. Saban would complain just as much as any HUNH coach if the other team started faking an injury on every play against them.
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 6:19 pm to narddogg81
quote:The HUNH isn't close to players flopping. The only reason there isn't a rule for it is because no one expects a coach to stoop low enough to have their players flop over and over to get free time outs or interfere with the game.
ok, to summarize, you dont like a practice that is allowable or at least not stoppable under current rules because you think its detrimental to the game and you want a rule to stop it. i can respect that. rules change with the game.
quote:So it should be looked down on because Auburn did it once as a gesture to BB, after him trying to be a smartass about a extra point play but not if Saban does it? It was also when the clock was stopped and he never returned. Which I said the rule should be.
hope this fella doesn't want an nfl career. i like how you see auburn d players in confusion trying to substitute, swain looks to the sideline then falls like a brick.
quote:a) ESPN polled all the coaches. b) You can count richt and the number for a change still isn't comparable. I expect nothing less from someone cornered by facts. Especially a Bama fan. When is Bama fans gonna start backing anything with data or studies? All their claims are backed with are Saban said it so it must be right or its good for Auburn so it must be wrong.
a) where do you get 70%? b) if you are referring to the 10 second rule, opposition to that is not the same thing as saying nothing needs to change relative to the hunh. guys like richt opposed the rule but wants refs to take it back over like in the pros. im going to require a study regarding coaches opinions on the hunh before i can accept your hypothesis im afraid
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 6:56 pm
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