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re: moral equivalency? hunh vs flopping
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:42 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:42 pm to narddogg81
quote:Well the HUNH is a different situation. There isn't anything showing it causes more injuries. In fact, the data shows the NFL causes more injuries than the HUNH and that is what Saban says the rules should be modeled after. So there is nothing to justify a rule. Players on one or two teams flopping shows its not the HUNH but instead their coach's coaching. Whether it be the game plan to flop or not conditioning them well. But they still need rules to protect those players from being on the field when they are falling constantly. Like benching them until they are cleared or a set period because they are not in condition to be on the field. If the entire team is having problems then the coach and school needs to be held accountable.
im not disagreeing with you. you are the first honest person on here. you would call fro a rule change in this instance.
Also it even makes the players look injury prone and can hurt their NFL stock all because their coaches made them fake injuries.
As far as being ethical, 70%+ of coaches and most of the coaches from the big conferences agree that the HUNH is ethical and shouldn't have rules to stop it. Including ones who don't run it. You will not find a coach that thinks teams should fake injuries or that it is ethical. Saban would complain just as much as any HUNH coach if the other team started faking an injury on every play against them.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:56 pm to Rabern57
quote:ok, to summarize, you dont like a practice that is allowable or at least not stoppable under current rules because you think its detrimental to the game and you want a rule to stop it. i can respect that. rules change with the game.
Well the HUNH is a different situation. There isn't anything showing it causes more injuries. In fact, the data shows the NFL causes more injuries than the HUNH and that is what Saban says the rules should be modeled after. So there is nothing to justify a rule. Players on one or two teams flopping shows its not the HUNH but instead their coach's coaching. Whether it be the game plan to flop or not conditioning them well. But they still need rules to protect those players from being on the field when they are falling constantly. Like benching them until they are cleared or a set period because they are not in condition to be on the field. If the entire team is having problems then the coach and school needs to be held accountable.
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Also it even makes the players look injury prone and can hurt their NFL stock all because their coaches made them fake injuries.
hope this fella doesn't want an nfl career. i like how you see auburn d players in confusion trying to substitute, swain looks to the sideline then falls like a brick.
quote:a) where do you get 70%? b) if you are referring to the 10 second rule, opposition to that is not the same thing as saying nothing needs to change relative to the hunh. guys like richt opposed the rule but wants refs to take it back over like in the pros. im going to require a study regarding coaches opinions on the hunh before i can accept your hypothesis im afraid
As far as being ethical, 70%+ of coaches and most of the coaches from the big conferences agree that the HUNH is ethical and shouldn't have rules to stop it. Including ones who don't run it. You will not find a coach that thinks teams should fake injuries or that it is ethical. Saban would complain just as much as any HUNH coach if the other team started faking an injury on every play against them.
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