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It's easy to define because pretending to have an illness or injury is not the same as suffering from an injury or illness. What's your next dodge, dance, and run?

here, i will go slow. the word feign is indeed easy to define, you found it in the dictionary all on your own,kudos. the act of determining a feigned illness vs an unfeigned illness (are you still following me?) on the field (you know what the field is?) is not a straightforward prospect. who is to say when a player is feigning an illness (are you still with me)? In practice, will you as the (alleged) ref make a player who is down get up on go to the sideline? would there be repercussions for on official who made a truly injured player do so (should i be using smaller words, just tell me. i know you can access the dictionary so hopefully you are following)? No? Ok then. So in practice (and by in practice i mean in the real world, not when you do something over and over to get better at it), there is no mechanism to enforce a prohibition against flopping (if defined as feigning and injury or illness). So, is a rule that cant be enforced really a rule in practice (again, not like practicing your flute)? Since you are content to retreat into semantics here, lets just refer to another definition of flop, ie to fall to the ground. Yes, words can have more than one definition.

edit. since you are fond of quoting me, you will notice that in the very first post of this thread i define flopping as going down with a less than traumatic injury.

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Posted by Rabern57

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Member since Jan 2010

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Posted on 3/8/14 at 5:42 pm to narddogg81

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im not disagreeing with you. you are the first honest person on here. you would call fro a rule change in this instance.

Well the HUNH is a different situation. There isn't anything showing it causes more injuries. In fact, the data shows the NFL causes more injuries than the HUNH and that is what Saban says the rules should be modeled after. So there is nothing to justify a rule. Players on one or two teams flopping shows its not the HUNH but instead their coach's coaching. Whether it be the game plan to flop or not conditioning them well. But they still need rules to protect those players from being on the field when they are falling constantly. Like benching them until they are cleared or a set period because they are not in condition to be on the field. If the entire team is having problems then the coach and school needs to be held accountable.

Also it even makes the players look injury prone and can hurt their NFL stock all because their coaches made them fake injuries.

As far as being ethical, 70%+ of coaches and most of the coaches from the big conferences agree that the HUNH is ethical and shouldn't have rules to stop it. Including ones who don't run it. You will not find a coach that thinks teams should fake injuries or that it is ethical. Saban would complain just as much as any HUNH coach if the other team started faking an injury on every play against them.

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Posted by arrakis

Member since Nov 2008

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Posted on 3/8/14 at 9:35 pm to narddogg81

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edit. since you are fond of quoting me, you will notice that in the very first post of this thread i define flopping as going down with a less than traumatic injury.

Yes, you changed it after I exposed your ignorance