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re: Peyton vs. Eli "in the clutch"
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:20 pm to madmaxvol
Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:20 pm to madmaxvol
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1. It took the play by the receiver to make the catch. My point...it takes both the QB and receive to make the play.
2. According to Manningham, if his shoe was 1/2 size bigger, he would have been out of bounds. Eli gets credit for a great throw...but the receiver gets credit for the situational awareness to stay inbounds. Again...Manningham made a great play...to solely lay the play on "Eli's Intangibles" is myopic.
3. Maybe so...but I'm smarter than you.
1. Exactly, without both efforts they probably lose, they bailed the giants out, Eli needed no bailing out as he didn't play bad at all.
2. Manningham is a huge egotistical player, so of course he gives himself 100% credit. He also said he was better than the other receivers. Look at him now that he has left the giants. not one season over 500 yards.
3. Not saying much
there are plenty of people smarter than me that are ignorant. My original point, that you are arguing against, has been the quality of Eli's receivers throughout his career.
And you choose David tyree( terrible example) and Mario manningham ( hasn't done shite since leaving the gmen) as your examples for great receivers
because they happen to be involved in one of Eli's historically clutch superbowl moments, I'm sorry Eli can't complete clutch passes to himself, I have the feeling even then you Peyton apologists would find a way to give credit to someone else. No one is saying Eli is a better qb than Peyton, settle down. But acting like Peyton doesn't have weak points is laughable.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 2:25 pm
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:22 pm to Rebelfan1985
And how can people still claim that Peyton doesn't have enough help when this same team won a division title and playoff game (against the #1 defense that season) with Tebow's worthless arse?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 3:37 pm to Rebelfan1985
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My original point, that you are arguing against, has been the quality of Eli's receivers throughout his career. And you choose David tyree( terrible example) and Mario manningham ( hasn't done shite since leaving the gmen) as your examples for great receivers because they happen to be involved in one of Eli's historically clutch superbowl moments, I'm sorry Eli can't complete clutch passes to himself, I have the feeling even then you Peyton apologists would find a way to give credit to someone else. No one is saying Eli is a better qb than Peyton, settle down. But acting like Peyton doesn't have weak points is laughable.
I used Tyree to point out that it took a big play on both sides...it wasn't like the biggest play on the drive that won the game hit a receiver in stride. The whole point was that it might be that Eli is surrounded by players who come up big in the Super Bowl as much as he does.
As for Manningham...in the last two possessions in the Super Bowl, Manning went to Manningham 7 times (completing 4). He only caught 1 more pass the entire game. Again...Manningham stepped up as much as Eli.
On the other side...Peyton certainly has weaknesses, but he has been surrounded by other players who have choked in the big game as much (or more than) him. Is that partially because they were relying so much on him during the regular season that they were waiting on him to make the big plays instead of doing it themselves?
I'm not saying that Peyton plays great in Super Bowls...but I've been watching football for a long time. I haven't seen an individual win or lose a game, yet.
BTW...Your earlier posts said I was "Stupid as Frik", which I am not. Had you said that I was "Ignorant as Frik"...you might have been better served.
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