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re: Peyton vs. Eli "in the clutch"

Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:47 pm to
The point about intangibles is they cant be defined and thus cant be honestly discussed. Who has more intangibles, AJ McCarron or Johnny Manziel? Manziel carried an awful defense to 19 wins in two years, but McCarron carried a minor league NFL team to 2 national titles. Does Manziel have more intangibles because he willed a pretty average team to 19 wins and two bowl victories, or does McCarron have more because he won two titles with great teams? If you choose to pick one, why?

It's just not something that can be honestly discussed because there are no defined parameters, metrics or numbers involved.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:58 pm to
The only solution to that aspect is to try to hammer out some things we can all agree on. Most, for instance, would agree that 'leadership' is an intangible. A significant percentage would probably also agree that 'intimidation' is an intangible. And so forth.

Of course, that still leaves us with the problem of how to measure said intangibles in any objective, or even semi-objective, fashion. We can probably agree that both McCarron and Manziel were great team leaders. We'll never be able to cement that agreement in solid enough terms to decide which one was a better leader. Even in your analysis, your choice of words skews perception toward Manziel, and a Bama fan could counter with the question, "Does Manziel have more intangibles because he was a better scrambler or does McCarron have more intangibles because he led his team to two consecutive national titles?" As long as it's all about language, there's no real recourse to this dilemma.
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