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re: Those of you who are calling for JHC's head....

Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:51 am to
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 7:51 am to
If you pay football players, you have to pay all student-athletes of all sports...equally. Just like you cannot dining halls, academic centers, or any other perk just for a specific sport, you can't just pay football players. Part of that is Title IX, which is federal law, as well.
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
1749 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:46 am to
All student athletes dont bring in the same amount of money for the university. I support a stipend because they are treated like unpaid employees. Who are we to "discipline" grown men who arent getting paid. A lot of people get financial aid and arent subject to scrutiny.
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:06 am to
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Now you are changing the argument. You first said they should get paid because they bring money into the University. You also said that since football brings in the money, then football players should be the ones that get compensated.


Yeah you gotta change your argument since I'm getting more specific about it. So what benefits the school better, football program bringing in millions or a grant, which are usually used for specific research not like what could be used off the football revenue, which covers a wider spectrum.

I"m not saying they should get compensated for injuries, but when you are a high recruit out of highschool, you think they are thinking they gonna make it as a doctor, or as a football player in the NFL? These 4-5* recruits are all planning on making it to the NFL, as they are physically talented enough to make it w/ proper training.

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I think the NCAA is a business. And that is precisely why they resist paying athletes. So they can continue to make money. If they don't make money they don't stay in business.


So you agree that the NCAA is a business but they shouldn't pay their athletes who make a profit? SO you agree that the powers at be for the NCAA should continue to profit off these kids, while they get paid nothing!?? So you like the sound of communist china right??

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As for the HOPE Scholarship....how many of them do you think would qualify for it? Not many would be able to keep a "B" average, so they would lose it immediately.


Hope scholarship is easy to maintain, its just a b grade. Also UGA has standards right?? why does these student football players get to come here w/ subpar gpa and SAT/ACT scores?? B/c they could care less as long as these dumbass can make a profit. I've had friends who made 1200 or so on the SAT and still couldn't get accepted to uga. But these players get special attention.

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This is true...but the academics is there for the students benefit. that is the payment the student gets for playing football. That is like saying a business hires someone to work not to get paid. That is true...the pay is the benefit of doing what the business wants.
Student benefits is not teh same as payment. Can the students go to the dealership and buy a car and pay with lunch credits at uga?? Can they go to walmart and use their book card for groceries?? To say scholarship is compensation is not right, you already admitted these guys aren't here for their diploma, they are here for the NFL. Some guys on the team might benefit, but when you got a bunch of 4-5* thinking they are going to make it, then the degree means nothing.

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Seriously? you are going to use two sexual deviants and a thief to make your point? In your world we should have turned a blind eye to what they did?


Yes I am, b/c who is overreacting about JHC failing two drug test for weed, when at other SEC schools he would not be suspended for 4 games like at uga. ALso crowell charges got dropped. U think we coulda used him this year?? Also is a player who smokes pot, worse than those sexual deviants and thief?? The way yall are pussy hurt over it, makes it seem so. Its the policy at uga that needs to change, not these kids having fun and smoking weed. Again you ignored this the whole thread, but why would this not be a fricking problem at alabama, auburn, LSU, you know the teams in teh sec that has won a motherfricking championship unlike Richts goodie two shoes. We keep suspending guys like JHC, Olgetree, Rambo, etc for stupid drug test fails, not crime related drug charges, just failing a piss test. Stuff like this is why we will always be 9-3 or so, b/c we suspended our best players for doing something that what college students do. Also weed is good for you, so theres a reason why its used medically in 20 states plus our capital. Its a whole other subject, but weed can help these players out by finding a link b/w 2 different unrelated concepts. Its been proven by science, also it doesn't cause lung cancer and has been shown to cure cancer and tumors. So its not like we are talking about crack or meth and have JHC kicked out of college forever! Its just weed.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 4:40 pm to
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If you pay football players, you have to pay all student-athletes of all sports...equally. Just like you cannot dining halls, academic centers, or any other perk just for a specific sport, you can't just pay football players. Part of that is Title IX, which is federal law, as well.



Apparently you misunderstood me...or more likely, I was not very clear. I don't advocate paying players. It would be a HUGE mistake. And yes...if you paid one group you would have to pay everybody. It would bankrupt MOST schools. They would probably drop all sports except maybe Football, Basketball and baseball. Then even it out fro Title IX with Basketball, softball and tennis or something for women. It just isn't feasible. My opinion.
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