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re: Saban is a defensive mastermind, correct?

Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:03 am to
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:03 am to
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I wouldn't be surprised if we some serious philosophy changes in the offseason. Our inability to get pressure with just our D linemen is killing us against the HUNH.





Yep. Saban's gonna have to change his philosophy which he has formulated and codified over many years of coaching and has ingrained in his coaches and players. But in just the last 5 years offenses have increased in sophistication to where you have to approach them with a different mindset. It's no longer about beating your man but anticipating where he's going to be. Requires an aggressive approach and quick, heady players.

Some of these route trees I see now didn't exist 10 years ago.

But you definitely can't have a bunch of bruisers who were recruited as 3-4 DE's trying to rush a quick, mobile passer when you're in dime. You have to have true pass rushers and you can't afford to give up coverage by blitzing LB's and DB's every single play.

That replay of a 300 pound DE trying to contain Trevor Knight running to the sideline when he threw that touchdown back across his body showed exactly why Saban's defenses have so much trouble against those offenses.
Posted by tritiger
Member since Apr 2006
1436 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:34 am to
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Mohican


Better watch out, you've made a very clear, accurate and concise argument here.

Gonna make the Bammers very confused. My guess is the most likely reply will be "21-0"
Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11329 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:07 am to
Don't have it recorded but I remember a play in the 4 th quarter when a okie LBer was spying on AJ. The 4 linemen came on a rush and the lb looked to be blitzing then hung back. When it looked like AJ had beat the rush lb was on him quick.
C NS never did pay attention to how CLM beat JFF. Pride is a terrible thing sometimes.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14565 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:28 pm to
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Yep. Saban's gonna have to change his philosophy which he has formulated and codified over many years of coaching and has ingrained in his coaches and players. But in just the last 5 years offenses have increased in sophistication to where you have to approach them with a different mindset. It's no longer about beating your man but anticipating where he's going to be. Requires an aggressive approach and quick, heady players. Some of these route trees I see now didn't exist 10 years ago. But you definitely can't have a bunch of bruisers who were recruited as 3-4 DE's trying to rush a quick, mobile passer when you're in dime. You have to have true pass rushers and you can't afford to give up coverage by blitzing LB's and DB's every single play. That replay of a 300 pound DE trying to contain Trevor Knight running to the sideline when he threw that touchdown back across his body showed exactly why Saban's defenses have so much trouble against those offenses.

Could not have said it any better. Spot on.
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