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Why is Gus Malzahn hated among so many Arkansas Razorback fans?
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:18 pm
What has the guy done wrong to be hated by so many? I have never really gotten a straight answer on this since my time being here, and also observing Hogville during a long time of bannage.
He was a high-school wizard in the state of Arkansas. The guy took over as head coach at Springdale high-school in 2001, and then proceeded to take said school to state championships in 2 of his last 4 years (winning one in 2005). He had a hand in bringing big-time recruits Mitch Mustain and Damien Williams to Arkansas when he got the offensive coordinator and wide receivers job there. Also, during his time at Arkansas with that position(s), he helped the team go 10-4 (7-1).
He is a genuinely good guy and has worked his arse off to be where he is now. He has had success at every stop (Arkansas, Tulsa, Auburn, Arkansas State), and is an offensive genius that could do well at any other place.
What gives?
He was a high-school wizard in the state of Arkansas. The guy took over as head coach at Springdale high-school in 2001, and then proceeded to take said school to state championships in 2 of his last 4 years (winning one in 2005). He had a hand in bringing big-time recruits Mitch Mustain and Damien Williams to Arkansas when he got the offensive coordinator and wide receivers job there. Also, during his time at Arkansas with that position(s), he helped the team go 10-4 (7-1).
He is a genuinely good guy and has worked his arse off to be where he is now. He has had success at every stop (Arkansas, Tulsa, Auburn, Arkansas State), and is an offensive genius that could do well at any other place.
What gives?
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:20 pm to TTsTowel
I'd be interested to hear some rational responses. Not someone saying they read on a message board that he's petty.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:22 pm to TTsTowel
Spurned lover syndrome.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:23 pm to TTsTowel
The reasons were posted not all that long ago but I don't recall what they were off the top of my head
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:28 pm to TTsTowel
If you win, losers will hate you. It is that simple.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:29 pm to TTsTowel
I don't hate him.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:31 pm to TTsTowel
Recruited players in hs. Cult like church. I have disliked him since hs coaching days.
Many more reasons but on phone atm.
Many more reasons but on phone atm.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:33 pm to TTsTowel
Doesn't make sense to me either. A fanbase that embraced a shitbag like Petrino detests a genuinely good guy like Gus. Baffling.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:33 pm to TTsTowel
It seems many just hate the other Arkansans who are Gus supporters and they project that hate onto Gus.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:36 pm to TTsTowel
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Good luck in the Ship!
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:38 pm to TTsTowel
Because they are stuck with a big titty loser
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:40 pm to TTsTowel
I like him.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:50 pm to TTsTowel
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He was a high-school wizard in the state of Arkansas. The guy took over as head coach at Springdale high-school in 2001, and then proceeded to take said school to state championships in 2 of his last 4 years (winning one in 2005).
A lot of people don't like him from his time at Shiloh Christian. The school he coached at before he went to Springdale.
Personaly, I have no problems with Gus. We even lost to Shiloh 42-0 my senior year but I don't hold it against him. He's a very good coach but he's a very polarizing figure in our state. Arkansas has long been his dream job but unfortunately it is never going to happen.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 7:57 pm to TTsTowel
I've hated him since he was at Shilo where boosters payed tuition for players in a conference where small town teams had players having to play both ways all while Gus ran up the score. Still throwing the ball with a huge lead and leaving starters in to pad stats. Also don't agree how he used 18 yo to break into college just to desert them a year later. He always came off as a looking out for myself no matter what type guy. That's my reason. You people don't like it, too bad. I've put up with him a hell of a lot longer than you.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:02 pm to TTsTowel
I don't dislike Gus Malzahn and I think he's a really good coach. His "disciples" are what turns a lot of Arkansans off, though it's not his choice they choose to be that way.
Personally, I know one person that practically worships him, though it's probably more evident around the Springdale area. It is very strange.
But honestly, I don't understand the hate.
Personally, I know one person that practically worships him, though it's probably more evident around the Springdale area. It is very strange.
But honestly, I don't understand the hate.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:03 pm to TTsTowel
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There are a number of reasons dating back to the 2006/Mustain recruitment years.
Some think he never deserved the OC job and should've just gotten a job as a position coach. It bred infighting on the staff.
Some think he made too many promises we couldn't keep to Mustain, Williams and Cleveland, which bred resentment from and towards them. Some also think he didn't do enough to quell their parents' involvement, either.
Some have a bitter taste in their mouths for the way pretty much the entirety of the city of Springdale turned on the program after Mustain, Williams and Malzahn left after the 2006 season. Many Springdale people/Malzahn fanboys from his days at SCS/SHS gave up their season tickets and swore off the Hogs.
A lot of people dislike him for his (alleged) part in Camgate and the 2010 season.
A lot of people don't like the fact that he was pretty successful at mining Arkansas for recruits while at both Tulsa and Auburn.
A lot of people didn't care for the fact he spent all of his lone season at ASU taking potshots at tFlagship and trying to gin up a nonexistent rivalry, even going as far as saying that ASU-UA should play at War Memorial (laughable). He even spouted a bunch of nonsense about turning ASU into "the Boise of the South."
A lot of Hog fans who either also root for or graduated from ASU were extremely turned off by him bolting after one year, if anything because talked about year about how it was home and about how he and Kristi were "in it for the long haul" and all that nonsense.
For the most part, a great number of our fans didn't want him because he had/has two things against him that made firing Nutt almost impossible: he's a homegrown boy with deep ties among powerful people in the state and he has an entire town/city in his back pocket (he has Springdale, Nutt had Little Rock). Like I've said before, if Bert sucks after 3 years, he's probably gone; if Malzahn would've sucked after 3 years, his allies would have been right there to save him.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:11 pm to TTsTowel
Its dumb. A lot of it goes back to high school rivalries.
Some of it is Nutt lovers.
Some of it is just retardation.
Some of it is Nutt lovers.
Some of it is just retardation.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:21 pm to TTsTowel
I like the guy.
Posted on 12/18/13 at 8:36 pm to TTsTowel
I haven't lived in Northwest Arkansas for many years but I do understand the hatred toward the cult-like religious thing. I saw the same thing happen within a couple of large churches in Central Arkansas that I absolutely despise.
...but I do understand the political and monetary appeal for a lot of people. I don't hate the people. I hate the operation.
...but I do understand the political and monetary appeal for a lot of people. I don't hate the people. I hate the operation.
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 8:42 pm
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