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re: Since '80, what dynasty comes in 2nd place behind the current Alabama dynasty?

Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:52 pm to
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I'm not convinced that 2007 LSU was that great.
name another team that has beaten 6 ranked teams in a season. the list is short

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2 losses to teams that'd finish the season unranked
again, focusing on only one aspect of lsu's resume to the exclusion of other aspects

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Alabama only needed a maximum of 2 teams to lose in 2011 and 2012 to make it to the national championship
this is of course a ludicrous statement. bama needed all kinds of help, it just didn't happen in one week.

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I don't feel like counting how many losses LSU waited for in order to get into the BCSNC
no more than any team needs in any season. like the losses in the last week are somehow illegitimate or make lsu less of a good team.
Posted by Majin Buu
Member since Nov 2013
1200 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:06 pm to
I see 5 for 07 LSU:

#5/#4 Ohio State
#9/#9 Virginia Tech
#12/#12 Tennessee
#13/#16 Florida
#15/#14 Auburn

10 Auburn had 7:

#3/#3 Oregon
#8/#8 LSU
#10/#11 Alabama
#12/#12 Arkansas
#15/#17 Mississippi State
#22/#22 South Carolina (twice)
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30917 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 7:02 am to
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name another team that has beaten 6 ranked teams in a season. the list is short


Keep patting yourself on the backed for beating those "ranked" juggernauts that include 6-6 South Carolina and 7-6 alabama. Neither of which finished the season anywhere near the top 25.

Every SEC team you beat had least 4 losses. Your best win was against a 3 loss Virginia Tech team.

I knew LSU 2007 was a sham but upon further examination it's even more pitiful than I thought.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 12/17/13 at 10:45 am to
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name another team that has beaten 6 ranked teams in a season.

In 2007, LSU only beat 3 teams that finished the regular season ranked: Virginia Tech, Florida, and Tennessee. Tennessee was not a good team. The Big 10 was weak; Ohio State was the only team that finished the season with fewer than 4 losses.

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again, focusing on only one aspect of lsu's resume to the exclusion of other aspects

Again, you only beat 2 good teams just like 2012 Alabama. The difference is that Alabama lost to a team that finished in the Top 5, while LSU lost to two teams that finished the season unranked.

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this is of course a ludicrous statement. bama needed all kinds of help, it just didn't happen in one week.

Yeah, Alabama needed help from the voters just like LSU, but the voters do take what happened on the field across the landscape into consideration. In 2011, Alabama fell from #2 to #3. Hence, they only needed #2 to lose to get back into the title game. Throw in Oregon too. Oregon lost to U.S.C., and I'm not sure they would have gotten the nod over Alabama considering LSU owned them in the season opener.
In 2012, Alabama fell from #1 to #4. Stanford had a controversial loss to Notre Dame, but they slowed the mighty Ducks down and won the PAC 12. Notre Dame had a few controversial call go their way and were ranked #4 in the BCS before Alabama lost to Texas A&M. Kansas State was exposed by Baylor, and Oregon finished the job in the Fiesta Bowl. Additionally, Kansas State and Oregon were originally schedule to meetup in 2012, but the game was cancelled. Alabama tends to have slow starts or average play after bye weeks and the LSU game. Alabama was clearly unprepared for the Texas A&M game following an emotional, come from behind win against LSU in a game where the Tide's spirits and title hopes were seemingly dashed. After Texas A&M's explosive 1st quarter, they had little scoring success for the remainder of the game. I'd put the loss on AJ's shoulders. After all, he was the one crying after leading his team down the field to beat LSU on Alabama's last possession. AJ was the one that underthrew two deep balls in the 4th quarter that resulted in 7 Texas A&M points and took 6-14 Alabama points off the board. AJ McCarron was the one that picked off 2 (3*) times by the Texas A&M secondary.
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no more than any team needs in any season. like the losses in the last week are somehow illegitimate or make lsu less of a good team.

BS! I just showed you that Alabama only needed 2 teams to lose to make it to the national championship in 2011 and 2012.
LSU was #4 in the 1st BCS standings. 3 weeks later, LSU was #2 after South Florida and Boston College lost. So far, that's 2 losses LSU needed to get into the Top 2.LSU fell from #1 to #7 when they lost to Arkansas. Losses by Missouri and West Virginia and a win over Tennessee vaulted LSU into the #2 spot. That's 4 losses that LSU needed to secure a spot in the BCS National Championship.LSU had an unimpressive performance vs a Tennessee team that was worse than their record indicated. I guess the computers helped LSU beat Oklahoma in the standings. Needless to say, LSU needed more help than Alabama did during Alabama's run. 2007 LSU is the only team that got the benefit of losing two games to unranked competition and only beating 3 ranked teams to get a spot in the BCSNCG. 2007 LSU only dominated Virginia Tech. The games versus Florida and Tennessee could have gone either way. 2007 LSU struggled versus average teams. A team that struggles against half their schedule isn't impressive. Who did LSU struggle against? Florida, Kentucky (L), Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas (L), and Tennessee. That's 6 out of the 13 teams LSU played during the regular season.
This post was edited on 12/17/13 at 10:46 am
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