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The BCS is dead
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:47 pm
It seems a lot of folks are projecting the BCS into the future playoff system. The BCS is now dead. There will be no more computer rankings. There will be no more BCS standings.
The Final 4 for the next 12 years will be determined solely by a committee of 13, who can put anybody they damn well please into the playoff. Can they refer to the BCS standings for help? No, there's no such thing as BCS rankings. Can they refer to the human rankings for help? Yes, but is that a good thing?
It is going to be a totally subjective cluster. This season's hypothetical Final 4 includes Florida State, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Baylor. Beginning right now, it'll never be any easier than that.
The Final 4 for the next 12 years will be determined solely by a committee of 13, who can put anybody they damn well please into the playoff. Can they refer to the BCS standings for help? No, there's no such thing as BCS rankings. Can they refer to the human rankings for help? Yes, but is that a good thing?
It is going to be a totally subjective cluster. This season's hypothetical Final 4 includes Florida State, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Baylor. Beginning right now, it'll never be any easier than that.
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:48 pm to Scoreboard
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:50 pm to Scoreboard
I wouldn't be surprised if the "power programs" start hiring people to lobby the voters all year long. They better hope that they've selected some honest voters or a pay for vote system will quickly be in place.
Say what you will about computers, at least there is some level of indifference with them.
Say what you will about computers, at least there is some level of indifference with them.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:51 pm to Scoreboard
People always complain. The BCS is terrible today, and they will cry about the playoffs too. But yeah, at least there was reduced bias attempted with the bcs. Certainly people want be biased when selection occurs, right?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:51 pm to Scoreboard
Our AD is one of the 13
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:51 pm to Scoreboard
the computer rankings will still exist, and I believe the selection committee will take metrics into account. The NCAA march madness selection committee does.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:56 pm to Scoreboard
Won't be 4 for very long....I see 8 coming in just a few years. Then that'll hold out for a good little while 8-10 years, then 16.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:58 pm to Scoreboard
This is just the beginning of what will ultimately be a 32 team playoff. Will I see it in my lifetime?
Probably not. But I will see a top 8 playoff. Maybe even a top 16.
Probably not. But I will see a top 8 playoff. Maybe even a top 16.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:02 pm to Scoreboard
Flaws and potential problems aside, the 4 team playoff is still a step in the right direction in regards to an ideal post-season format. It leaves less room for doubt as to who is most deserving of the title of national champs because teams must do more work to earn it on the field
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:21 pm to Scoreboard
I thought I read that the selection committee would be producing their own rankings starting around week 6, similar to the BCS
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:32 pm to Scoreboard
The BCS is dead...and soon so will the only compelling regular season in college football. All these morons that want to NFL-ize or NBA-ize college football are just about to kill it.
You playoff expansionistas realize one of the greatest games in the 100+ years of college football - the 2013 "Got A Sec, Nick" Iron Bowl - would have meant nothing under an 8 team format. In fact, you are pushing the sport to a situation where a coach of a team in the top 3 will pull starters after a quarter or so to avoid injuries. Can you imagine the secondguessing that will go on if say, a Nick Saban plays AJ all game in the IB and he gets his knee wrecked in the 4th quarter? Or if Gus plays Nick Marshall and Robinson at LT in the SECCG and they get hurt?
We are rapidly approaching the day when tradiotional games in the last week (OSU/Mich, Iron Bowl, FSU/UF, etc) or the conference championships have all the appeal of the slate of Week 16 & 17 NFL matchups.
But, by all means, let's get rid of the BCS. I mean, it only did it's job extremely well for a long time.
You playoff expansionistas realize one of the greatest games in the 100+ years of college football - the 2013 "Got A Sec, Nick" Iron Bowl - would have meant nothing under an 8 team format. In fact, you are pushing the sport to a situation where a coach of a team in the top 3 will pull starters after a quarter or so to avoid injuries. Can you imagine the secondguessing that will go on if say, a Nick Saban plays AJ all game in the IB and he gets his knee wrecked in the 4th quarter? Or if Gus plays Nick Marshall and Robinson at LT in the SECCG and they get hurt?
We are rapidly approaching the day when tradiotional games in the last week (OSU/Mich, Iron Bowl, FSU/UF, etc) or the conference championships have all the appeal of the slate of Week 16 & 17 NFL matchups.
But, by all means, let's get rid of the BCS. I mean, it only did it's job extremely well for a long time.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:58 pm to Scoreboard
I'm playing committee:
Florida State is in. 13-0 and winners of a major conference. They are also the #1 seed.
Auburn is in. 12-1 and winners of the top conference in football. They are the undeniable #2 seed.
Here's where it gets tricky. You have:
Alabama - 11-1 and two time defending champion. Only loss is to Auburn, but did not win their division
Michigan State - 12-1 and winners of the Big Ten. Sort of unheralded but a good finish. Only loss early in season to an 8-win Notre Dame team.
Baylor - 11-1 and outright Big 12 champions, but got embarrassed by Oklahoma State.
Stanford - 11-2 and Pac 12 champions, but two losses.
Ohio State - 12-1 and losers of their conference championship game to Michigan State.
Right off the bat, I throw Ohio State out. The only way you can consider Ohio State is if Michigan State is a consensus #1 or #2.
Stanford passes the eye test, but two losses, including one to Utah is too much to overcome.
Two spots to Alabama, Michigan State and Baylor.
Baylor and Michigan State are their conference champions and Alabama did not win their division, BUT
Baylor was embarrassed by the best team they played while Alabama's loss came o the consensus #2.
I kick Baylor out, but seed Michigan State third and Alabama fourth, to reward Michigan State's championship season and to avoid an SEC-SEC first round matchup. If Oklahoma State would have beaten Oklahoma or Stanford was a one loss team, I think Bama may have been voted out.
Its going to be hell-a-tough to get two SEC teams in this 4-team playoff. This year it would have worked out, but barely.
Florida State is in. 13-0 and winners of a major conference. They are also the #1 seed.
Auburn is in. 12-1 and winners of the top conference in football. They are the undeniable #2 seed.
Here's where it gets tricky. You have:
Alabama - 11-1 and two time defending champion. Only loss is to Auburn, but did not win their division
Michigan State - 12-1 and winners of the Big Ten. Sort of unheralded but a good finish. Only loss early in season to an 8-win Notre Dame team.
Baylor - 11-1 and outright Big 12 champions, but got embarrassed by Oklahoma State.
Stanford - 11-2 and Pac 12 champions, but two losses.
Ohio State - 12-1 and losers of their conference championship game to Michigan State.
Right off the bat, I throw Ohio State out. The only way you can consider Ohio State is if Michigan State is a consensus #1 or #2.
Stanford passes the eye test, but two losses, including one to Utah is too much to overcome.
Two spots to Alabama, Michigan State and Baylor.
Baylor and Michigan State are their conference champions and Alabama did not win their division, BUT
Baylor was embarrassed by the best team they played while Alabama's loss came o the consensus #2.
I kick Baylor out, but seed Michigan State third and Alabama fourth, to reward Michigan State's championship season and to avoid an SEC-SEC first round matchup. If Oklahoma State would have beaten Oklahoma or Stanford was a one loss team, I think Bama may have been voted out.
Its going to be hell-a-tough to get two SEC teams in this 4-team playoff. This year it would have worked out, but barely.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 12/9/13 at 2:01 pm to Scoreboard
Here's my idea: Dissolve conferences. All teams play eight exhibition games for seeding. Final 7 weeks of season is a 128-team playoff. Bang.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 2:51 pm to Scoreboard
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It is going to be a totally subjective cluster. This season's hypothetical Final 4 includes Florida State, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Baylor. Beginning right now, it'll never be any easier than that.
You're right ... and it is not going to be a good thing.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:06 pm to Scoreboard
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This season's hypothetical Final 4 includes Florida State, Auburn, Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Baylor. Beginning right now, it'll never be any easier than that.
The final four has six teams?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 4:00 pm to Scoreboard
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College football is dead
FIFY
Sure, we'll still have some suspense next year during the regular season as the presumed No. 4 and No. 5 bite their nails to see who makes it to the dance. Then in a few years, games like we saw Auburn and Alabama play will be for naught as we anxiously wait to see if Missouri or South Carolina get in. Then after that, we'll be on the edge of our seats while UCLA and Arizona State battle it out for that coveted No. 16 spot. All while watching the SEC Championship game as just a seeding exercise.
In season games will be interesting, but no real stakes on the line. The good teams will get in. The bad ones won't. And the ones on the bubble are bad enough to never have had a chance anyway.
Look at the mid teens in this latest AP. Do you think any of these has a chance to run the gauntlet against the top 8?
The seasons will be boring. The one big thing that helped college football stand out from the NFL, weekly games that mattered, will be gone. Goodbye college football. I loved you while you were with us.
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