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re: Since 2009, Saban's Alabama Is 4-5 Versus SEC West Teams That Finish Ranked

Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:52 pm to
Here's another way to look at it:

In December and January, since 2009 Alabama is undefeated.

That's wins over 13-1 Florida, 13-1 Texas, 11-2 Mich State, 13-1 LSU, 13-1 Notre Dame, and 12-2 UGA (of which most of the losses all came at the hands of Alabama - only two came to teams not named Alabama).

That's 4 teams that ONLY lost to Alabama.

Like I said - any set of numbers can be manipulated to say what you damn well please.
Posted by JoeKines335
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:56 pm to
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11-2 LSU, 14-0 Auburn, 13-1 LSU, 11-2 Texas A&M, and a currently 11-1 Auburn


These are all outstanding teams.

Instead of just using November, how about we take into consideration games against 12-2 UGA last year, as well as #1 12-0 Florida in 2009? Oh, and how about Texas, Notre Dame, and LSU in the National Championship games.

The fact is, Alabama lost to some REALLY good teams. 2010 Auburn, 2012 Texas A&M, and 2011 LSU were among the best, if not the best, in the country.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:24 pm to
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That's wins over 13-1 Florida, 13-1 Texas, 11-2 Mich State, 13-1 LSU, 13-1 Notre Dame, and 12-2 UGA


Of those 8 losses those teams have, Bama inflicted 6 of them.

At the time played, the combined records were:

72-2

After Playing Bama, the combined records were:

74-8
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 9:18 pm to
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Here's another way to look at it:

In December and January, since 2009 Alabama is undefeated.

That's wins over 13-1 Florida, 13-1 Texas, 11-2 Mich State, 13-1 LSU, 13-1 Notre Dame, and 12-2 UGA (of which most of the losses all came at the hands of Alabama - only two came to teams not named Alabama).

That's 4 teams that ONLY lost to Alabama.

Like I said - any set of numbers can be manipulated to say what you damn well please.


Great point. Absolutely great point. Yet none of it addresses that all great coaches, even Saban, need luck. Gumps just won 3 out of 4 and they whole heartedly believed they were staring at the greatest machine ever built at the college level. If they simply realized they were lucky as shite to be in position to win the last 2, they wouldn't be so devastated. They don't want to contribute any component of their success to lady luck, and that sets false standard.
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