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Since 2009, Saban's Alabama Is 4-5 Versus SEC West Teams That Finish Ranked
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:43 pm
tl;dr What is your take on Alabama's awful record versus good teams in November?
Since 2009, Alabama has compiled a 4-5 record in November against teams that finished the season ranked.
Saban gets a pass for 2007; it was his first year, and he didn't inherit a program in good shape.
2008 Alabama did not face any opponents in November that finished the season ranked.
Chronologically, the 4 wins were against a 9-4 LSU, 9-4 Mississippi State, 10-3 LSU, and a currently 9-3 LSU.
The 5 losses were against an 11-2 LSU, 14-0 Auburn, 13-1 LSU, 11-2 Texas A&M, and a currently 11-1 Auburn.
What do the 4 wins have in common?
The opponent finished the season with 2 or 3 other losses.
What do the 5 losses have in common?
All of them were close, but Alabama always fell short. The opponent finished the season ranked in the Top 10. etc. etc.
During November, Alabama has not defeated an opponent that finished ranked in the Top 10 in the BCS era.You must venture back to 1999 for the last time Alabama beat a team in November that finished the season ranked. That 1999 win came against 10-2 Mississippi State, a team that scraped by several unranked opponents and did not beat a ranked team.
Since 2009, Alabama has compiled a 4-5 record in November against teams that finished the season ranked.
Saban gets a pass for 2007; it was his first year, and he didn't inherit a program in good shape.
2008 Alabama did not face any opponents in November that finished the season ranked.
Chronologically, the 4 wins were against a 9-4 LSU, 9-4 Mississippi State, 10-3 LSU, and a currently 9-3 LSU.
The 5 losses were against an 11-2 LSU, 14-0 Auburn, 13-1 LSU, 11-2 Texas A&M, and a currently 11-1 Auburn.
What do the 4 wins have in common?
The opponent finished the season with 2 or 3 other losses.
What do the 5 losses have in common?
All of them were close, but Alabama always fell short. The opponent finished the season ranked in the Top 10. etc. etc.
During November, Alabama has not defeated an opponent that finished ranked in the Top 10 in the BCS era.You must venture back to 1999 for the last time Alabama beat a team in November that finished the season ranked. That 1999 win came against 10-2 Mississippi State, a team that scraped by several unranked opponents and did not beat a ranked team.
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:44 pm to Gardevoir
I'm here to confirm your despair...
Bama sucks, the decline is on the way, fire him and send him to Texas
Bama sucks, the decline is on the way, fire him and send him to Texas
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:45 pm to Gardevoir
This is why Saban is not the GOAT. He also needed LOTS of help for his last 2 titles.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:45 pm to Gardevoir
Is this a schedule thread?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:46 pm to Gardevoir
We beat FCS Top Ten Georgia Southern in 2011. Moral Victory 
Florida knows a thing or two about Georgia Southern.
Florida knows a thing or two about Georgia Southern.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:47 pm to Gardevoir
He's close to 50-50 against top teams in major games. I think Saban is slightly overrated (as in, he's an all timer but not God), but he gets to big games and wins them about half the time.
Not sure what else you can really ask for over any stretch of time, in the toughest division in the land.
Not sure what else you can really ask for over any stretch of time, in the toughest division in the land.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:47 pm to Gardevoir
My take is that one of our Aubies posted a thread about his record vs good Auburn teams. No one from bama took him seriously.
Advice: Start being a little more humble as a fan base and pay attention to other stats every so often. You're welcome...
Advice: Start being a little more humble as a fan base and pay attention to other stats every so often. You're welcome...
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:50 pm to Gardevoir
This will not end well.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:55 pm to Gardevoir
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Alabama fan
Not quite sure what you're trying to do here. Has to be a trap of some sort...
Aw frick it, I'll bite.
Congrats on barely losing to a team LSU beat by double digits in the rain. Y'all put up a valiant effort.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:57 pm to Gardevoir
I guess A&M doesn't count this year since the game was moved to September.
team must have been from the SECW, ranked, and game played in November? what a stat. add a few more qualifiers and you might whittle it down to zero wins
team must have been from the SECW, ranked, and game played in November? what a stat. add a few more qualifiers and you might whittle it down to zero wins
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:00 pm to Gardevoir
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During November, Alabama has not defeated an opponent that finished ranked in the Top 10 in the BCS era.
Who the hell cares? This is cherry picking at its finest.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:02 pm to Gardevoir
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During November, Alabama has not defeated an opponent that finished ranked in the Top 10 in the BCS era.You must venture back to 1999 for the last time Alabama beat a team in November that finished the season ranked. That 1999 win came against 10-2 Mississippi State, a team that scraped by several unranked opponents and did not beat a ranked team.
Please don't tell me you're complaining about Nick Saban. Alabama has won 3 national titles in the last 4 seasons. Holy crap!
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:07 pm to Gardevoir
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Gardevoir
Since 2009, Saban's Alabama Is 4-5 Versus SEC West Teams
SHOULD have been 3-6....
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:28 pm to Gardevoir
The 5 teams he lost to had a combined 6 losses total ... Back yo the drawing board with you.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:48 pm to Gardevoir
I have always said saban is just an average game day coach. Also said if Tubs could keep the talent levels similar he would beat saban regularly.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:54 pm to Gardevoir
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Since 2009, Saban's Alabama Is 4-5 Versus SEC West Teams That Finish Ranked
Also Saban fielded way more talented team than the opposition.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:57 pm to Gardevoir
Maybe if Bama played a little bit tougher of a schedule, they might be ready for the big games down the stretch.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:35 pm to Gardevoir
Simply put, Saban is not an elite gameday coach. He is an elite recruiter and program manager. With him at the helm you will always be one of the most talented teams in the nation and never have disastrous years. Saban and his players seem to struggle in November because neither him nor his players have much experience facing 4th quarter adversity by the time November rolls around. Bama's opponents are used to it, but Bama is not.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 7:55 pm to Gardevoir
Please post other west division team results over the same period for comparison.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 8:39 pm to Gardevoir
He hasn't lost any of those games by more than six points and all of those games were winnable.
2010- 3 point loss to LSU, LSU controlled the game for the most part but they needed a 3rd and 15 conversion to put the game away, who knows what would have happened if Bama had gotten the stop?
2010- 1 point loss to Auburn, very winnable game, Bama probably would have won if Ingram hadn't fumbled the ball in the red zone
2011- 3 point OT loss to LSU, had many opportunities to win the game
2012- 5 point loss to Texas A&M, had the ball inside the Aggies 5 yard line with the opportunity to score the go-ahead TD late in the game
2013- 6 point loss to Auburn, it would take me several hours to describe all the missed opportunities by Bama in this game, needless to say this was a very winnable game that got away from them
2010- 3 point loss to LSU, LSU controlled the game for the most part but they needed a 3rd and 15 conversion to put the game away, who knows what would have happened if Bama had gotten the stop?
2010- 1 point loss to Auburn, very winnable game, Bama probably would have won if Ingram hadn't fumbled the ball in the red zone
2011- 3 point OT loss to LSU, had many opportunities to win the game
2012- 5 point loss to Texas A&M, had the ball inside the Aggies 5 yard line with the opportunity to score the go-ahead TD late in the game
2013- 6 point loss to Auburn, it would take me several hours to describe all the missed opportunities by Bama in this game, needless to say this was a very winnable game that got away from them
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