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re: The Coach who never punts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:32 pm to Oregunslinger
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:32 pm to Oregunslinger
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This is Oregon's approach to the game. For the most part it's been fairly successful.
Yeah teams should definitely go for 2 more. It's one of the easiest things to prove with elementary school math.
Let's just say a 1 point PAT is 100% (it's not but let's just say it is).
If you are less than 50% to convert a 2 point conversion, you should kick the point. If you are greater than 50%, you should go for 2.
Every time you miss a 2 is cancelled out by a time you make a 2. If you make it more than you miss, you come out ahead.
It's the same story with punting. Punting still gives the other team the ball and therefor a chance to score. All punting does is reduce the chance the other team will score.
But maintaining possesion denies them the chance to scoer at all AND gives you a chance to score.
In other words, the best defense is almost always doing everything you can not to give them the ball.
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:35 pm to IAmReality
You make a very good point about high school special teams.
If you can consistnetly punt and kickoff and pin your opponent down very deep insie the 10, that does make kicking more appealing than otherwise.
At high level play never punting is probably a bad blanket strategy, but not going for a 4th down on your opponents side of the field is almost always terrible.
The point behind all this is coaches tend to pick the conversative approach way too often. If a coach played "perfect" strategy from a game theory point of view you'd see much more 4th down attempts and more aggressive play in general.
If you can consistnetly punt and kickoff and pin your opponent down very deep insie the 10, that does make kicking more appealing than otherwise.
At high level play never punting is probably a bad blanket strategy, but not going for a 4th down on your opponents side of the field is almost always terrible.
The point behind all this is coaches tend to pick the conversative approach way too often. If a coach played "perfect" strategy from a game theory point of view you'd see much more 4th down attempts and more aggressive play in general.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:38 pm to IAmReality
quote:Great points. The major draw back is the field goal kicking unit. As you can see from our program, it sucks. The kickers hardly ever kick, so when they do need to make a clutch kick, they tend to choke because they don't have the experience. It also makes it hard to recruit decent kickers. Who wants to kick for a team that never kicks?
In other words, the best defense is almost always doing everything you can not to give them the ball
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