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re: Can we please stop the end of the world shite

Posted on 11/10/13 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 1:11 pm to
I think some poster here need to chill out, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Just because a person is critical of our coaches, doesn't mean we want them fired. I'll admit, I do want Chaney on the first uhaul out of town.

This is a message board. This board is great because we don't pump sunshine. On the opposite side, we do not have any overly amount of posters who are negative Nancy's 24/7...outside of a few, but a few can be dealt with.

I'll lay it all out and explain my issues with Bert....again, this doesn't mean I don't think he will work out in the end, but these are things that bother me...so here is my opinion....First of all, he needs to keep his arse out of the bars and off the bottle during game week...Fayetteville is small and it rubs people the wrong way...

Bert came here and probably didn't totally understand how lacking in talent we actually were....he probably didn't study us that much before taking the job...he knew, prior to last season, he had a group of seniors who had won 25 games in 4 years, or redshirt seniors who won 33 games in 4 years...a group who had a two year record of 21-5, but may have just had a rough go of it last year.

He was wrong. In being wrong, he talked a ton of shite on twitter, at Razorback club meetings across the state, etc. he set himself up for a lot of this criticism IMO. Had he been like most all coaches in the SEC and not been active on twitter, I think fans aren't as open in their criticism right now.

As the season started, many thought ULL was a legit semi-legit OOC team. We won going away. Looked great. I even bumped a thread asking if we would be better than what we had all predicted. Then comes Samford and Southern Miss(this is where I began to feel fishy on Chaney). As fans, there were excuses made on why the Samford game wasn't more of a blowout. Chaney started with the offense excuses by saying, "we aren't showing our passing game because we don't have to" bologna. Southern Miss game happens, with a legit opportunity to work on the passing game with your back up QB and we don't. Again, Chaney says we don't have to show anything. If we need to pass, don't worry, we will be able to.

Fast forward to now. Sitting 3-7 with no chance of going to a bowl. Zero wins in conference. Officially tied the longest losing streak in school history. Which, is only the 3rd time in our programs history we have lost this many games in a row. Only one coach has lost this many games in a row since we joined the SEC and he was fired.

The talent or lack there of is apparent to any of us with announce of football knowledge. This staff though, has contributed to the failure of the season. A fake punt call against South Carolina. Multiple bad play calls inside the two yard line against Auburn. An onside kick very early in the game against Auburn. A half back pass against Ole Miss. I could list a few more, but you get the point.

Someone on this staff seems to have an itchy trigger finger. All or most of those calls are made when things are rolling quite nicely on offensive series. They've all been game or momentum killers. So, someone needs to answer for them.

Some may disagree with me on my next statement and that's fine...but as a former player at the collegiate level, calling out players by name in post game press conferences isn't going to win any votes in that locker room. Especially when the kid isn't a senior. Kids who are planning on returning will remember that as long as they're here. It sets up an awkward relationship going forward.

The player called out most recently knows he missed tackles. He knew it the instant it happened. Going back to Bert's twitter rumblings when he first took the job, sometimes it's best to keep your mouth shut publicly and say things in house. What would be the reaction if a player took to twitter and openly criticized a call by his staff? Or said so in a press conference? There would be back lash of course.

Openly crticizing the entire defense about missed tackles would be enough. The players know who they are.

This is probably what has happened by calling someone out.....Players do not pay attention to hardly anything press conference related 90% of the time....Tevin likely got a call or text from a player or friend, maybe a family member and they asked him if he had heard what coach said about him after the game....he likely said no but then got on his phone or computer to find out what had been said...I'm sure he didn't like it and only Tevin knows what his feelings were in that moment.

How many of us have jobs where you work as a team, but independently, your job reflect on the production of your group? What would be your reaction if your boss called you out in front of everyone and it made you feel not so good? It's an honest question. I feel like bosses who do that, are riding the fence in the reaction they get. There's a legit 50/50 chance you will lose all connection to that employee.

Maybe all this makes sense. As I keep typing, I feel like I'm rambling....hopefully this is understandable to you all....
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 1:12 pm to
Wow that's really long....sorry
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 1:17 pm to


Great post, well said.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:33 am to
quote:

calling out players by name in post game press conferences isn't going to win any votes in that locker room


I can see your point, but conversely, Mitchell also isn't winning any votes by giving up big touchdowns every game.

Just as Allen most likely lost a lot of support in the locker room when he was throwing a pick 6 every week.

Truth is none of us knows what it's like in the locker room right now.
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