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re: fumble or not?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:49 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:49 pm to Funky Tide 8
This is a good one. Look at his thumb. You can say that in the VERY EARLY stages of the reach out, he was grasping the football by the side using a cone of all his fingers with the thumb on top for leverage.
Look at his thumb here, it is no longer being used to grasp the football. Look at where his glove starts on his wrists..you can pretty easily surmise where his fingers are. Based on this picture, there's no way he is grasping the football. And again, the whole key here is POSSESSION. Is he possessing the football there, or merely touching it?
That picture does not show someone in possession of a football. And if you were to fast forward a few milliseconds until the very instant before the ball crossed the front plane, the "possession" would be even less.
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 5:58 pm to WG_Dawg
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you can pretty easily surmise where his fingers are
You may be right that he lost possession right there, but that is blurry, and you are speculating about where his fingers might be when you say that you can "surmise." That is not indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field.
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That picture does not show someone in possession of a football.
Nor does it show someone NOT in possession. It's inconclusive, thus, the ruling on the field stands. Touchdown.
That's all I am arguing. You can't really tell from the video that he loses possession prior to the ball crossing the front of the goal line. When in doubt, the ruling on the field stands.
It amazes me that people are so emphatic about this when I look at that video. There's no way that the replay official had enough to overturn. I just can't imagine that person being so certain.
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