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Posted on 12/8/13 at 6:24 am to Prof
Posted on 12/8/13 at 6:24 am to Prof
Good points and we all remember where Andrew Johnson called home. Unfortunately, Andy Jackson was a Democrat and Tennessee became largely Democrat Party in the population centers (as did most Southern States) during his term and after.
The North was actually less unified than the South, however, and Davis lamented the fact that Lincoln could impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus, parts of the First and Second Amendments as well as most of the Constitution when necessary to prosecute the invasion of the South, while he couldn't.
And remember that Missouri and Maryland both voted to secede and join the Confederacy, only to see the Federal Army prevent that by overthrowing the duly elected governments of those sovereign states.
Thanks for the reply.
The North was actually less unified than the South, however, and Davis lamented the fact that Lincoln could impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus, parts of the First and Second Amendments as well as most of the Constitution when necessary to prosecute the invasion of the South, while he couldn't.
And remember that Missouri and Maryland both voted to secede and join the Confederacy, only to see the Federal Army prevent that by overthrowing the duly elected governments of those sovereign states.
Thanks for the reply.
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 3:13 am to BadLeroyDawg
Wednesday, 9 December 1863
There was no question that racism was as rampant or more so in the North as it ever was in the slaveholding south, and that certainly included a great many members of the United States military. There were a few dedicated abolitionists like Robert Gould Shaw who were proud to command units of the United States Colored Troops, but many who found it mortifying. One of these latter was in command at Fort Jackson, Louisiana, downriver from New Orleans. His loathing for this posting was translated into cruel and abusive treatment of the black soldiers under his command. Today they decided that this was behavior up with which they would no longer put, and they rose in mutiny. Other white officers at the installation managed to halt the uprising before blood was shed. This was not the first mutiny to happen at Fort Jackson, but the last one was committed by Confederate troops after Rear Admiral David Glasgow Farragut bypassed them to take New Orleans.
The USS Circassian, under Acting Lieutenant Eaton, seized the blockade running British steamer Minna at sea east of Cape Romain, South Carolina. The steamer was carrying cargo including iron, hardware, and powder. In addition, Eaton reported, "she has also as cargo a propeller and shaft and other parts of a marine engine, perhaps intended for some Rebel ironclad."
President Abraham Lincoln granted a pardon exempting E. W. Gantt, of Arkansas, from the penalty of treason, which he incurred by accepting and exercising the office of Brigadier General in the service of the Rebels. The pardon also reinstated General Gantt in all his rights of property, excepting those relating to slaves.
The Marine Brigade, under the Command of General Ellet, and a portion of Colonel Gresham's command, returned to Natchez from an unsuccessful expedition going after the partisan Rebels under Wirt Adams, who had mounted a battery on Ellis's Cliff.
There was no question that racism was as rampant or more so in the North as it ever was in the slaveholding south, and that certainly included a great many members of the United States military. There were a few dedicated abolitionists like Robert Gould Shaw who were proud to command units of the United States Colored Troops, but many who found it mortifying. One of these latter was in command at Fort Jackson, Louisiana, downriver from New Orleans. His loathing for this posting was translated into cruel and abusive treatment of the black soldiers under his command. Today they decided that this was behavior up with which they would no longer put, and they rose in mutiny. Other white officers at the installation managed to halt the uprising before blood was shed. This was not the first mutiny to happen at Fort Jackson, but the last one was committed by Confederate troops after Rear Admiral David Glasgow Farragut bypassed them to take New Orleans.
The USS Circassian, under Acting Lieutenant Eaton, seized the blockade running British steamer Minna at sea east of Cape Romain, South Carolina. The steamer was carrying cargo including iron, hardware, and powder. In addition, Eaton reported, "she has also as cargo a propeller and shaft and other parts of a marine engine, perhaps intended for some Rebel ironclad."
President Abraham Lincoln granted a pardon exempting E. W. Gantt, of Arkansas, from the penalty of treason, which he incurred by accepting and exercising the office of Brigadier General in the service of the Rebels. The pardon also reinstated General Gantt in all his rights of property, excepting those relating to slaves.
The Marine Brigade, under the Command of General Ellet, and a portion of Colonel Gresham's command, returned to Natchez from an unsuccessful expedition going after the partisan Rebels under Wirt Adams, who had mounted a battery on Ellis's Cliff.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 7:35 pm to BadLeroyDawg
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Good points and we all remember where Andrew Johnson called home. Unfortunately, Andy Jackson was a Democrat and Tennessee became largely Democrat Party in the population centers (as did most Southern States) during his term and after.
The North was actually less unified than the South, however, and Davis lamented the fact that Lincoln could impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus, parts of the First and Second Amendments as well as most of the Constitution when necessary to prosecute the invasion of the South, while he couldn't.
And remember that Missouri and Maryland both voted to secede and join the Confederacy, only to see the Federal Army prevent that by overthrowing the duly elected governments of those sovereign states.
Thanks for the reply.
Jackson would've stopped it before it started. In fact, he did stop it when he threatened Calhoun with troops in South Carolina. But unfortunately he only delayed the war as Calhoun's ideas would pick up steam later.
The US, imo, was doomed from the beginning to go to war if radical social and ideological changes didn't happen. We made a compromise for the sake of the Revolutionary War but we never did hammer out those issues the way we should've instead of putting them off.
Ironically, had Richard Henry Lee's wife, author of the Lee Resolution which was the Constitutional Congress' authorization to authorize and draft the Declaration of Independence, not fallen ill when it was time to draft the Declaration things might've turned out differently. Lee was highly influential in getting delegates to vote for independence and was an abolitionist who saw slavery as immoral and proposed a gradual phase out as a solution. When his wife fell ill the Declaration moved to Thomas Jefferson who was a disciple of sorts but without Lee there Jefferson lost his nerve and worried he couldn't gain support on a divisive issue (although Jefferson did include a condemnation of slavery in his first draft although more than one founding father warned that it would be our doom not to address the issue then and there).
It's funny to think how much the Lee family shaped American history and not just Richard Henry or Robert but other Lees.
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