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re: 150 years ago this day...

Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:46 am to
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 1:46 am to
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Northern Georgia and eastern Tennessee were the scenes of numerous skirmishes, probes, reconnaissances, and general nastiness today.


They were also very much pro-UNION. East, Tennnessee voted overwhelmingly to stay in the Union. When the 2nd Vote was scheduled the Governor of Tennessee (from Middle, TN) sent troops in to suppress the vote (even so we voted overwhelmingly UNION and followed that up with several attempts to secede from the state and join the Union proper -- when Knoxville fell the Union Army was not only treated as a liberating force but thrown a feast that amazed commanders (we begged to be given permission to fight). And before then, East, Tennesseans braved the crossing into Kentucky despite orders from Confederates they'd be shot on sight, many died simply trying to join the Union Army while many more fought from home or made it and joined the Union Army proper).

In Georgia, there were shenanigans as well including their Governor preparing two slates of electors (one for the confederacy and the other should the Union vote win -- that slate was prepared to vote for secession even if the Unionists won). Lincoln himself placed a priority on freeing Tennessee from Condfederates. My SOs grandfather, we are Appalachian after all, lived and died derisively calling democrats 'rebels' ad did his father because 'republicanism' here comes from that time period and is very different than the nouveau Deep South republicanism prevalent today.

The wide ranging bridge burning conspiracy is just one example of how the South was never unified and E.Tn, N. GA, and N. Ala resisted. LINK

Truth is the South was never unified.
Posted by BadLeroyDawg
Member since Aug 2013
848 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 6:24 am to
Good points and we all remember where Andrew Johnson called home. Unfortunately, Andy Jackson was a Democrat and Tennessee became largely Democrat Party in the population centers (as did most Southern States) during his term and after.

The North was actually less unified than the South, however, and Davis lamented the fact that Lincoln could impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus, parts of the First and Second Amendments as well as most of the Constitution when necessary to prosecute the invasion of the South, while he couldn't.

And remember that Missouri and Maryland both voted to secede and join the Confederacy, only to see the Federal Army prevent that by overthrowing the duly elected governments of those sovereign states.

Thanks for the reply.

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