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re: Is AJ McCarron the most underrated QB in SEC history?

Posted on 8/25/13 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 6:29 pm to
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Your logic was that the 3rd string TAMU QB had a grasp on the offense, so yes, Manziel would not have a grasp on the Bama offense, so he would be borderline 3rd string according to your post.


My logic was that if AJ magically transported to College Station, he wouldn't have as good of a grasp of the offense as a second string guy that had already learned it. And Manziel technically spent a year under Sherman learning a really advanced West Coast offense. The single back concepts Saban uses are similar to Sumlin(he has run a single back coaching clinic for like a decade).

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Have you broken any other QB picks to the degree you have with AJ's.


Broke it down? My knowledge of that pick hasn't changed since I watched the replay of it on the CBS broadcast as it returned from commercial break. There isn't that much to break down. AJ made a horrendously terrible throw.

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Have you broken down any of the 9 that Manziel threw last yr?


From the top of my head? Lemme think.

His first two came in his fifth game at Ole Miss, I was there so I think I remember both. The first one was when we were driving towards the end of the first quarter it was a deep throw on 3rd and long to the outside that he didn't put enough under. I have no idea if the corner or the safety made the play. The next one was early in the 4th quarter. Manziel got sacked to make it third and really long. Then he got backed up even more, some Ole Miss defender made a terrible tackle, but it knocked him back like 4 yards, and then he chunked it down to god knows who. It was at that point I headed to the "square" and watched the rest of the game.

The next game at La Tech, Manziel threw one pick. An absolute bullshite facemask in the endzone returned for a TD. I couldn't believe those shitty refs.

The next week against LSU and I was also at this game so I remember all them unfortunately, Johnny threw three. The first was towards the end of the first half when we were up 12-0. We tried to run a pick route, and the guy running the wheel route was lost, and Johnny threw it up with not enough on it. Either the receiver didn't run his route tight enough, or he stopped running, but it was a really easy pick from what I remember. The next was early in the second half when wes perre down 14-12. He hit Mike Evans on a slant route that could have gone to the house, but it bounced off Evans hands. I'm not sure if Johnny could have thrown it maybe a little more in front of him, it seem like maybe it bounced off his back shoulderpad? Iunno more maybe Evans just took his eyes off of it. I've never seen the replay. His final interception was with like 5 minutes left in the game, he was trying to escape pressure, stared some guy down when he finally had a throwing lane rolling to his right or left can't remember, and some LSU defender just waiting in the flat got it. LSU scored the next play I think... so a 5 point game with 5 minutes left became a 12 point game super fast.

He didn't throw any against Auburn or Mississippi State I believe... and he didn't suck it up like AJ so I know he didn't throw any against Alabama...

He did throw one against Sam Houston I do remember that because one of my coworkers I was watching with at the bar went to Sam and I remember him saying something. The only thing that comes to mind is a deep throw down the sideline maybe? I'm not exactly sure. That's a wildassed guess.

Against Mizzou it was the one blemish on an otherwise outstanding night which I remember because we were arse stomping them 52-16, and it came right at the end of the 3rd quarter. Manziel didn't need to come back in in the 4th, but probably didn't want to go out on that note. How he threw it... it was a comeback route Evans that was just blanketed the whole time. Or at least that is who I remember it. I don't remember the Mizzou defender doing anything special. Manziel came back the next drive methodically moved it down to the one, then there was that weird pile and he held the ball over the goal line at the top of the pile while he was standing up really quick.

His last INT was in the Cotton Bowl. IT was an easy TD pass, the receiver just bobbled the ball right to a Sooner defender in the endzone. Had that not happened, the route would have started sooner.

So...

Ole Miss - 2
LSU - 3
LA Tech - 1(ridiculous facemask bullshite)
Sam Houston State - 1
Mizzou - 1
Oklahoma - 1(Sooner magic)

That equals 9 I believe.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 6:33 pm to
Did not read. Tigerdroppings should charge you for your therapy sessions.

Its not a blog
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 6:35 pm
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 6:52 pm to
Did not read. Tigerdroppings should charge you for your therapy sessions.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 7:06 pm to
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My logic was that if AJ magically transported to College Station, he wouldn't have as good of a grasp of the offense as a second string guy that had already learned it. And Manziel technically spent a year under Sherman learning a really advanced West Coast offense. The single back concepts Saban uses are similar to Sumlin(he has run a single back coaching clinic for like a decade).




So one yr of scout team at TAMU and he's already got the Bama offense down pat lol?? Gold Jerry...GOLD!!


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Broke it down? My knowledge of that pick hasn't changed since I watched the replay of it on the CBS broadcast as it returned from commercial break. There isn't that much to break down. AJ made a horrendously terrible throw.



...and yet you've pretty much based AJ's entire career off that throw in this thread.


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Ole Miss - 2
LSU - 3
LA Tech - 1(ridiculous facemask bullshite)
Sam Houston State - 1
Mizzou - 1
Oklahoma - 1(Sooner magic)



...and with that long post, you conveniently tried to blame the intended receiver for for 6 of those INT's that Johnny threw lol.
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