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re: Paul Finebaum claims AJ McCarron is....
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:08 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:08 pm to RollTide1987
The “ pro prospect ” has nothing to do with GOAT in college though.
I think that is where these other gus get confused.
Montana was expected to do nothing in the pros, nor was Starr , Favre and many other players who became great players.Likewise many cant miss prospects MISS.
If we are looking at college only and a QB has 3 straight titles ( 4 over all ) and stats like last year he has to be in the discussion for GOAT college QBs.
Thats just a fact, he will be in the CFHOF.
As per the NFL , thats another chapter.
I think that is where these other gus get confused.
Montana was expected to do nothing in the pros, nor was Starr , Favre and many other players who became great players.Likewise many cant miss prospects MISS.
If we are looking at college only and a QB has 3 straight titles ( 4 over all ) and stats like last year he has to be in the discussion for GOAT college QBs.
Thats just a fact, he will be in the CFHOF.
As per the NFL , thats another chapter.
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:12 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Yeah, because football isn't a team sport or anything.
But how many Super Bowls did he win?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:19 pm to pvilleguru
Well Pville Football is a team sport but at some point if you are going to point to any particular prospect especially one in the Pros (which means longer than 3-4 years) not winning a championship can be a definite mark against how good they are. After all a strong arm doesn't make a QB, its the total package and yes Marino not winning a championship is a mark on his record.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:27 pm to Libertyabides71
quote:How many other players can you name of the top of your head from those 80s & early 90s dolphin teams? I can think of one other player...
After all a strong arm doesn't make a QB, its the total package and yes Marino not winning a championship is a mark on his record.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:31 pm to joeyb147
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How many other players can you name of the top of your head from those 80s & early 90s dolphin teams? I can think of one other player...
A pro style QB is always only as good as the sum of their surrounding players. Football is still a team sport. Even a talented mobile QB like Cam or Johnny Football benefit from a great offensive line. Marino had a long career, the fact his franchise didn't have the good sense to put the pieces around him yes does effect his career.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:38 pm to Libertyabides71
This is pathetic guys.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:39 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
quote:Look, all of this talk is pointless. Not many actually agree that AJ McCarron will ever be considered the GOAT college football quarterback. Even with his career, Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton and Tim Tebow were all better college quarterbacks, IYAM. And Cam Newton, because of what he did with the Auburn team, gets my unanimous vote of being the best out of the aforementioned group.
The “ pro prospect ” has nothing to do with GOAT in college though.
Take a moment and imagine the Alabama teams, AJ McCarron was on, with Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton, and Tim Tebow... Just take a moment...
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:42 pm to TTsTowel
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Take a moment and imagine the Alabama teams, AJ McCarron was on, with Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton, and Tim Tebow... Just take a moment...
If Cam had produced over more than one season and Johnny Football does over more than one season sure. But its laughable to say either one of those guys are some of the top GOAT QB's in college football off of one year of production each.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:43 pm to Libertyabides71
quote:No, it's not.
But its laughable to say either one of those guys are some of the top GOAT QB's in college football off of one year of production each.
You're looking way too far into stats only, man.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:43 pm to Libertyabides71
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Well Pville Football is a team sport but at some point if you are going to point to any particular prospect especially one in the Pros (which means longer than 3-4 years) not winning a championship can be a definite mark against how good they are. After all a strong arm doesn't make a QB, its the total package and yes Marino not winning a championship is a mark on his record.
You are probably one of those people who think that a starting pitcher with a 22-6 record and a 3.50 ERA is better than a starting pitcher with a 14-8 record and a 2.15 ERA.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:44 pm to TTsTowel
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You're looking way too far into stats only, man.
then you are basing it on opinion and emotion.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:44 pm to TTsTowel
quote:Had very similar numbers to AJ last year. Threw same number of TDs. 4 more INTs. Lower attempts. Higher yard/attempts. Better passer rating.
Take a moment and imagine the Alabama teams, AJ McCarron was on, with Cam Newton... Just take a moment...
But, you know, an extra 1400 yds rushing with 20 TDs.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:45 pm to Robot Santa
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You are probably one of those people who think that a starting pitcher with a 22-6 record and a 3.50 ERA is better than a starting pitcher with a 14-8 record and a 2.15 ERA.
no but face it Marino had years for the franchise to build a winning team around him and they couldn't break through. That ultimately comes down to him does it not?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:46 pm to Libertyabides71
quote:Let's use your stat argument, then.
then you are basing it on opinion and emotion.
AJ McCarron still doesn't have as many career touchdowns as Cam Newton had in one season, being 2010.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:46 pm to rowdyreptiles
Well, if bammers win another, he will get a lot of credit by default.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:46 pm to pvilleguru
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Yeah, because football isn't a team sport or anything.
Okay….how many Super Bowls did the Miami Dolphins win while Dan Marino played there?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:47 pm to Libertyabides71
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no but face it Marino had years for the franchise to build a winning team around him and they couldn't break through. That ultimately comes down to him does it not?
Only a troll or a retard would make this kind of statement, so I'm done.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:47 pm to joeyb147
quote:One also had a higher quarterback rating...
Had very similar numbers to AJ last year. Threw same number of TDs. 4 more INTs. Lower attempts. Higher yard/attempts. Better passer rating.
But, you know, an extra 1400 yds rushing with 20 TDs.
Cam Newton 182.0
AJ McCarron 175.3
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:48 pm to Robot Santa
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Only a troll or a retard would make this kind of statement, so I'm done.
So teams don't draft a star QB and then build the pieces around him?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:49 pm to Libertyabides71
quote:Your own fanbase has disowned you.
Libertyabides71
Let's try another site...say, WoolyAL?
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