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re: How does Bama compare with tu in running a conference?
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:55 am to Txsbigeasy1
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:55 am to Txsbigeasy1
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Txsbigeasy1
Thank you, sir. I was about to roll out that link myself.
What these aggies do not understand is that boosters cheating is very, very hard to control. The NCAA has always been relatively light on schools whose boosters are the ones instigating the cheating.
Now here's what the aggies don't grasp: A&M and SMU officials LIED about it once they got caught.
They STONEWALLED investigations.
THAT is when the NCAA comes down hard.
THAT is called "lack of institutional control."
For example, SMU had already been on probation right before the death penalty, and its administrators continually lied that they had cleaned up things, when they had their finger in the pie the whole time.
And, at A&M, when they got caught, they fricking lied and stonewalled. Jackie Sherrill led the NCAA around by the nose, and they didn't take too kindly to it once they had the goods.
What also gets the NCAA's attention is when you are a repeat offender in a short timespan. The aggies were eligible for the death penalty because the basketball program went rogue in 1991, and then the football program got caught soon thereafter.
You ****s cuss DeLoss Dodds like a cur dog, but it was him who went before the Infractions Committee and begged them not to give you the death penalty, because it would've destroyed the already teetering Southwest Conference:
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Factually, the infractions incurred by Texas A&M over the last 20 years pale in comparison to some of the teams we've already seen. The primary difference, however, is that in many of those cases, the Committee on Infractions sympathized with the institutions for their lack of involvement and inability to stop the boosters. This sometimes resulted in lighter sentences, and fewer instances of "lack of institutional control."
In 1988, the NCAA uncovered numerous incidents of assistant coaches, boosters, and current players offer improper incentives to prospective athletes. On one occasion an assistant coach drove a Datsun 280ZX to the prospective athlete's house. Parked it in the drive way and told him, in not so many words, that it could be his if he signed with the Aggies. In a more morally repugnant incident, that same assistant coach tried to lure a different prospect by telling him that he could arrange for his father to receive medical treatment if the player signed with Texas A&M.
To make matters worse, the assistant coach repeatedly lied about his involvement in those (and other) recruiting violations. He admitted during a hearing, once he finally came clean, that he knew what he was doing was a violation of the rules, knew that he should've reported them, and did not do so to try to cover it up.
Another assistant coach was found to have secreted a recruit away in an apartment, plying him with refreshments, on national signing day so that other teams would be unable to get in touch with him prior to him signing with the Aggies.
For their missteps, the NCAA imposed two years of probation, a one year post-season ban, and docked the Aggies 10 scholarships.
In their 1994 report, the NCAA praised Texas A&M for the strides that they had made in their compliance since the 1988 incidents, but lamented the fact that certain boosters and players just couldn't get with the program. 1994 also marked the second time in 3 years that the university had narrowly avoided the death penalty. The previous time, in 1991, was attributed to the men's basketball program.
No. 3 Dirtiest Football Programs: A&M
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 9:17 am to texashorn
It's noble work you're doing
Posted on 5/29/13 at 9:27 am to texashorn
What is the purpose of posting another link to Aggies cheating? None of us is denying what happened. We got caught, took our lumps, and we moved on.
The fact that UTx was BETTER at cheating, and was able to avoid getting caught is not a victory for your moral superiority. Maybe it's a testament to your power and deviousness, but that has rarely been in question.
The fact that UTx was BETTER at cheating, and was able to avoid getting caught is not a victory for your moral superiority. Maybe it's a testament to your power and deviousness, but that has rarely been in question.
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:25 am to texashorn
I love how in this last quote texashorn actually has in their that the NCAA "sympathizes" with some schools and comes down hard on others. Awesome.
Yet somehow the NCAA (while Charles Allen Wright was Chair of Infractions) found nothing of note when the Statesman broke the "Capitol Camera" scandal in the '70s either which essentially had much of the Texas football team admitting to being paid for jobs that they didn't show up to, the most noteworthy being AA Brad Shearer. Then later was the '80s scandal that has already been talked about here where you had 24 former LH players telling the DMN they were paid and yet somehow that never made it into the final NCAA report, instead it was the minor infractions.
I won't deny A&M cheated in the '80s as did every SWC school. If you were a stud player in the '80s in Texas you were getting benefits whether you went to A&M or Texas or SMU or wherever, that's just how it was. What is hilarious is the holier than though crap of texashorn who tries to make the NCAA reports with Charles Allen Wright's fingerprints on them as evidence that somehow Texas was "purer" than the rest and that is why they got a slap while A&M and SMU got HAMMERED. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that both runs of 3 SWC Titles in a row in the '80s and '90s were stopped by the NCAA. lol
BTW, this is my personal favorite play of how Texas ran the SWC before the Big 12. This interception was ruled "out of bounds" when it would have sealed A&M's win over Texas in 1963 that would have kept Texas from its first NC:
Yet somehow the NCAA (while Charles Allen Wright was Chair of Infractions) found nothing of note when the Statesman broke the "Capitol Camera" scandal in the '70s either which essentially had much of the Texas football team admitting to being paid for jobs that they didn't show up to, the most noteworthy being AA Brad Shearer. Then later was the '80s scandal that has already been talked about here where you had 24 former LH players telling the DMN they were paid and yet somehow that never made it into the final NCAA report, instead it was the minor infractions.
I won't deny A&M cheated in the '80s as did every SWC school. If you were a stud player in the '80s in Texas you were getting benefits whether you went to A&M or Texas or SMU or wherever, that's just how it was. What is hilarious is the holier than though crap of texashorn who tries to make the NCAA reports with Charles Allen Wright's fingerprints on them as evidence that somehow Texas was "purer" than the rest and that is why they got a slap while A&M and SMU got HAMMERED. I'm sure it was just a coincidence that both runs of 3 SWC Titles in a row in the '80s and '90s were stopped by the NCAA. lol
BTW, this is my personal favorite play of how Texas ran the SWC before the Big 12. This interception was ruled "out of bounds" when it would have sealed A&M's win over Texas in 1963 that would have kept Texas from its first NC:
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