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re: SEC Outdoor Track & Field Championships

Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:48 pm to
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Do you object to the comparison with men's titles or the existence of women's titles in the first place?



I don't object to the existence of women's titles but I sure as hell am not a fan of Title IX. I've got a wrestling background and title IX is the direct causation for the decline in collegiate wrestling programs although youth wrestling is booming nationwide.

I do object to comparing men's titles and women's titles in the same sports. Tennessee doesn't have a single men's hoops title.

Comparing Apples to Apples LSU has 5 track titles and Arkansas 43/44 it's hard to keep up once you hit 20+.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 11:13 pm to
Nobody should ever try to talk track smack to Arkansas fans.

Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/24/13 at 9:38 am to
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I do object to comparing men's titles and women's titles in the same sports. Tennessee doesn't have a single men's hoops title

Now that's a bad comparison because there's a huge disparity in the popularity of men's and women's basketball that doesn't exist in track and field. Track and field is more analagous to tennis, another sport in which the women's stars are just as popular and make just as much money as the men's stars. I don't know a single track fan who enjoys women's track & field any less than men's. Maybe Joe Sixpack who has never been to a track meet and only watches it once every four years at the Olympics feels this way, but not track fans. Compare that to basketball where the highest paid WNBA player only makes a fraction of the NBA minumum wage, and where Tennessee women's basketball program loses money while the Tennessee men's basketball program makes well into seven figures despite never having won a national championship.
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Comparing Apples to Apples LSU has 5 track titles and Arkansas 43/44 it's hard to keep up once you hit 20+.

Even using your misguided logic, you obviously can't since count since even the LSU men have won more than five national champpionships and the Arkansas men's haven't won 44, even if you inflate the total adding cross country title to it.

Let me explain something to the folks here who are ignorant of the sport of track and field. Track and field meets consist of TRACK (sprints, distance, hurdles and relays) and FIELD (jumps and throws). Cross country meets consists of distance, which is only a fraction of the sport of track and field.

As a true fan of the entire sport of track and field AND cross country, I admire and respect what the Arkansas men's track and field program have accomplished over the years, including their distance running success. I'm probably one of the few people here who has ever attened a college cross country meet. But by defintion, cross country is not track and field, it's cross country, and every governing body associated with competitive running (eg. USATF, IAAF, NCAA, USTFCCCA, etc.) makes this distinction by holding separate championships for cross country and giving separate awards for cross country runners. So by defintion Arkansas has won 30 track & field championships and 11 cross country championships, which they have every right to be proud of. If they want to brag about the gaudier number of 41, they must be precise in their language by saying that they have won 41 cross country and track & field championships, and then there's no confusion.

Class is now dismissed!
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