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Offseason thread: SEC West Coaches as Military Leaders

Posted on 4/21/13 at 2:53 am
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/21/13 at 2:53 am
In no particular order. I was bored so I started this and now I'm tired as shite so I stopped after I did all the West coaches. I may do East tomorrow.

Gus Malzahn - Genghis Khan

The Mongol Empire at its height was the largest empire the world had ever seen. To this day, that is still the case. Genghis Khan rode from Asia all the way to Eastern Europe conquering everything in his path by utilizing a revolutionary quick-hitting method of attack that heavily relied on deception and confusing his enemies. The world had never seen this done so well and no army knew how to defend these groundbreaking tactics. In a very short amount of time, Genghis Khan was very successful because of this unconventional method.

This success was short lived however. Rival armies began to take ideas that the Mongols had pioneered. The Khans were not able to sustain control of the empire and this caused and the empire to collapse not even 60 years after its first campaigns. After the collapse, the tactics that the Mongols used to once establish the largest empire in mankind’s history were beginning to be used by everyone and the Mongols were no longer special. As the villain, Syndrome, said in Disney/Pixar’s The Incredibles; “When everyone’s super, no one will be.”

Nick Saban - Napoleon Bonaparte

Unlike others, Napoleon was not known as the mastermind behind a revolutionary new style of warfare. He was known to execute the methods that were already in place to perfection and improve on them. While not the originator of the methods he used, Napoleon very effectively combined the relatively superior maneuver and battle stages into one event. Before this, officers had considered this approach to battle as separate events. However, Napoleon used the maneuver to battle to dictate how and where the battle would progress. Napoleon was extremely meticulous and extremely well prepared going into every confrontation. Because of this, he rarely lost a battle. His one aim in battle was to completely and utterly destroy his enemy and he did that as well as anybody in history.

Despite being arguably the greatest military leader of modern history, Napoleon was not without a few faults. His ego was one of them. Toward the end of his career his underestimation of several enemies and sloppy execution of his tactics led to some costly defeats. Most notably the 2010 Iron Bo- I mean Battle of Waterloo. Despite this, he is still considered one of the greatest military minds of all time, if not THE greatest.
He was also known for being very short.

Gary Pinkel - George Custer

Custer was known during the Civil War as a promising young leader with and thought to have a bright military future. He had successes in the Civil War and all was looking well for the future. During his command of the 7th Cavalry Division in the Great Sioux War of 1876, Custer and the 7th found themselves face to face with an enemy that they expected to defeat with their innovative weapons and power of ‘Murica. Custer’s lack of control over his unit, coupled with his assistants being incompetent and/or drunk during the battle led to the greatest defeat in United States history. Much of the 7th Cavalry with Custer along with it was destroyed by Indian forces led by Chief Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull. The 7th Cavalry would rebound but the Custer era during the Indian Wars would forever be an era not to be remembered fondly.

Les Miles - General James “Mad Dog” Mattis

General Mattis is best known for leading the 1st Marine Division during the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and being largely responsible for the success in Fallujah in 2004. Mattis is not the reason the Marine Corps is successful but he has done a good job of making sure it stays that way. He is known for being extremely vocal and honest about what he thinks. He is known for being an all around badass who generates awesome quotes while also being good at his job. He is not the greatest commander that the Marine Corps has ever seen but he is a commander that makes the Marine Corps proud.

Bret Bielema - Marshal Georgy Zhukov

Being instrumental to the Soviet efforts on the Eastern Front in WWII, Zhukov is known for his defensive strategies and setting up the defences of Leningrad and Moscow that successfully repelled the German forces. Zhukov utilized every advantage he had to the fullest. He wore his enemies down by pounding the German lines relentlessly with the massive numbers that the Russians had at their disposal. His methods were not always pretty or pioneering but they were effective nonetheless. Zhukov was not the pioneer of the “Blitzkrieg” or any tactics we hear about in the books but his hard nosed approach proved to be too much for the Germans despite their vastly superior training and technology. He aggressive style helped the Russians drive the Germans back to Germany.

Dan Mullen - Marshal Hugh Dowding

A sort of under the radar leader. Facing an onslaught from the German Luftwaffe is no easy task, Dowding and the RAF were able to keep air superiority over London and kept Britain from being invaded with the success at the Battle of Britain. The success was not without a good deal of losses and it was not pretty but he was able to stay afloat against the brutal Luftwaffe, who would defeat almost every air force in the world if matched against them. Despite much of London being destroyed, the victory in the Battle of Britain was a morale booster for the country and undoubtedly contributed to their successes later on in the war. Dowding played a huge role in getting Britain on track in the war against a very powerful enemy despite often not getting much credit for it.

Kevin Sumlin - Admiral Raymond Spruance

Spruance is most well known for defeating the powerful Japanese fleet against all odds in the Battle of Midway. Despite the Japanese fleet being nearly twice the size of the US Fleet , the US ended up destroying them. When the US fleet intercepted the attacking Japanese, the Japanese were caught off guard and were reloading and refueling the planes on their aircraft carriers. This gave the US fleet a leg up early and that proved to be the deciding factor. The US was outnumbered and outmatched in just about every area but the element of surprise proved enough to win the day and this battle was no doubt the upset of the war. Spruance was absolutely a great commander and capable leader but most recognize the victory at Midway as a very lucky victory that likely would not have gone the same way again.
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 2:57 am
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted by cyde
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Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:39 am to
Kind of a cool idea. If you want to avoid the tragically predictable and unoriginal 'short' jokes, though, George Patton might work as Saban too.

You could slip in a little "Settle the frick down!" joke too with the whole shell shock scandal.
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 3:45 am
Posted by StrickAggie06
College Station
Member since Sep 2011
597 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:57 am to
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SEC West Coaches as Military Leaders

Gary Pinkel

You must really hate Hugh Freeze.

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Kevin Sumlin - Admiral Raymond Spruance

The US was outnumbered and outmatched in just about every area but the element of surprise proved enough to win the day and this battle was no doubt the upset of the war. Spruance was absolutely a great commander and capable leader but most recognize the victory at Midway as a very lucky victory that likely would not have gone the same way again.


0.5/10
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13706 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 5:54 am to
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0.5/10


I mean its pretty accurate when you realize he's talking about the Alabama game.
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
1679 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 8:25 am to
Not really lucky since they were busy trying to destroy the US Subs that were fricking them up.

Oh and David Farragut would be more appropriate. He lead the invasion of Mobile Bay. His orders to his men was "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" Which back in those days mines were called torpedoes.

Naval history lesson over, should you want more information on it you can just ask. I'm more accurate than Wikipedia.
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 8:33 am
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 8:35 am to
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Gary Pinkel


GDIAF you tPOS
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:01 am to
Mark Richt=Erwin Rommel
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21326 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:11 am to
You mean, great military commander and probably one of the most respected military minds ever. Yet, with all of those accolades, he was absent when it counted and his team lost a winnable fight?
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:20 am to
That and they are both underrated. Plus Rommel, like Richt, was an honorable man and a humanitarian. Not to mention that at times both didn't necessarily receive the proper support that they deserved and needed.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21326 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:28 am to
I'm good with that.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7432 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:49 am to
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I mean its pretty accurate when you realize he's talking about the Alabama game.

Not when Saban himself denied any element of surprise as a factor in the defeat.
Posted by Landsharks
Shreveport, louisana
Member since Jan 2013
8032 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 9:52 am to
You must hate freeze?
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3948 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:04 am to
John l Smith - general George McClellan
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 10:05 am
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
11263 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:11 am to
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John l Smith - general George McClellan

Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21326 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:15 am to
Strong effort!
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 4/21/13 at 10:21 am to
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Mark Richt=Erwin Rommel


i frickin wish he was as sly as the desert fox. richt is more of a omar bradley, or at least the omar bradley from the Patton movie that totally gets train run on him by the chain of command

i'll say will muschamp is bernard montgomery, that slimy british prick
This post was edited on 4/21/13 at 10:23 am
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