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re: Let me sum it up real quick for every one. SEC Pecking Order
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:17 am to South Georgia Dawg
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:17 am to South Georgia Dawg
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South Carolina: Almost included you to make the Big 6 into the big 7. SOS is a HOF coach and you are a SEC Football Championship away from being mentioned in the elite. But to give you your props you currently own my Big 6 Georgia Bulldogs right now.
How is South Carolina only an SEC Championship away from being considered among the elite of the conference?
Alabama has 23 SEC titles
Tennessee has 13 SEC titles
Georgia has 12 SEC titles
LSU has 11 SEC titles
Florida has 8 SEC titles
Auburn has 7 SEC titles
You're telling me a single SEC title will make South Carolina a part of the so-called "Big 6"?
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Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:38 am to i am dan
Don't forget that we were two points from beating LSU and Alabama was FAR from unbeatable. The gap really isn't as big as people are making it out to be.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:39 am to 15sammy34
It's hard to call someone "unbeatable" when they actually lost a game, so your point is pretty obvious.
After all, auburn was only a bare 49 points from doing it themselves.
After all, auburn was only a bare 49 points from doing it themselves.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:41 am to Crimson Legend
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Thanks! I have been looking for a good example of a blatant straw person argument. You have real talent for warping logic - you may want to consider something in sales management.
I'm intellectually honest enough that I have to agree with the Bama fan here.
Why you do this DontCare? Don't care?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 9:58 am to KurtGoBang1
I guess the OP could have made his point better this way: would it make any sense to bring in a Maryland or Rutgers like the Big whatever did this past season? My answer is NO. A lot of the talking heads keep calling N.Car. & Duke the cream of the cream of the ACC. What would they bring to the SEC beyond the obvious in basketball & Carolina in baseball? Is being good in one sport worth it to bring in all their sports teams?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 11:33 am to Crimson Legend
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Crimson Legend
so, you refer to the smaller schools as welfare cases, literally suggest that we should evaluate the value of prospective SEC schools based on the revenue they bring in (solely based on FB revenue, most likely), and then call my hyperbole a straw person argument simply to escape having to address the shittiness of your suggestion? of course i was taking your suggestion to its most absurd extreme, but my point is that it would be a real disservice to evaluate conference members based solely on revenue. i mean, do you really think the SEC should be run as a plutonomy?
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KurtGoBang1
stupid suggestions are stupid.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:48 pm to DontCare
Dontcare, here is my post and then yours, in their entirety:
My comment was two simple paragraphs - 1)an observation that a handful of schools are making the bulk of the revenue, and 2) when we expand, we should look for 2 schools who can increase the revenue for the conference, perhaps by strengthening basketball.
Somehow, you went from this to an idea of evaluating each school based on their revenue and cutting the conference until there's only one team left. Rather than continue your asinine rant, why not go back and try to understand the discussion?
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quote: You know, there IS a legitimate point in here about welfare in the SEC. A&M can't be grouped in with the others because their income in their first year has been outstanding. But considering we're already subsidizing half the conference, do we really want to consider bringing in more welfare cases? Give us two new teams that can really raise the level of basketball revenue, or sit tight, in my opinion.
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that's a great idea. why don't we cut out the lesser earning schools. then, once they're gone, we can cut out a few of the remaining schools that earn less than the top two. then, we can cut the final lesser earning team out. one-team conference is a great idea! please share more of your insane and completely worthless ideas with the rant.
My comment was two simple paragraphs - 1)an observation that a handful of schools are making the bulk of the revenue, and 2) when we expand, we should look for 2 schools who can increase the revenue for the conference, perhaps by strengthening basketball.
Somehow, you went from this to an idea of evaluating each school based on their revenue and cutting the conference until there's only one team left. Rather than continue your asinine rant, why not go back and try to understand the discussion?
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:11 pm to TJmoney
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chokes more than Jenna Jameson
No pics?
Fail.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:14 pm to RollTide1987
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How is South Carolina only an SEC Championship away from being considered among the elite of the conference?
Alabama has 23 SEC titles
Tennessee has 13 SEC titles
Georgia has 12 SEC titles
LSU has 11 SEC titles
Florida has 9* SEC titles
Auburn has 7 SEC titles
You're telling me a single SEC title will make South Carolina a part of the so-called "Big 6"?
fify
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:15 pm to DisplacedKentuckian
Auburn, Georgia, and Tennessee can only suck on that championship teet so long...
The real pecking order is Alabama, LSU, and Florida...
Florida has actually won basketball National Championships as well...
The real pecking order is Alabama, LSU, and Florida...
Florida has actually won basketball National Championships as well...
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:16 pm to roadGator
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quote:chokes more than Jenna Jameson Doesn't she only do lez porn now??? Terrible analogy if so.
Great hijack attempt
We need more Jenna Jameson threads and more Jenna Jameson pics
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:18 pm to Crimson Legend
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After all, auburn was only a bare 49 points from doing it themselves
I blame the refs for that game.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:21 pm to South Georgia Dawg
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Let me sum it up real quick for every one. SEC Pecking OrderBig 6: Alabama Auburn Florida Georgia LSU Tennessee Don't not question one of the big 6 period. They will band together and slap the damn taste out of your mouth. UT and AU are a little down right now, but watch your damn tone around them because they will be back punk slapping you in no time. Potential 2 that could make it the Big 8: Texas A&M: I like what I am seeing here Aggies, and you are earning the respect of the big 6 fast. Keep it up. South Carolina: Almost included you to make the Big 6 into the big 7. SOS is a HOF coach and you are a SEC Football Championship away from being mentioned in the elite. But to give you your props you currently own my Big 6 Georgia Bulldogs right now. Winter Sport King: Kentucky: Basketball counts for something.
Grammar aside, well done.
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The remaining 5 of you welfare check receiving whores don't freaking matter
True, but they are still needed to give the Big Boys a break or five in the schedules.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:26 pm to South Georgia Dawg
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Don't not question one of the big 6 period
I guess I won't not question them then
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:40 pm to Crimson Legend
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when we expand, we should look for 2 schools who can increase the revenue for the conference, perhaps by strengthening basketball.
that is a direct quote. how, then, am i incorrect in assuming that your argument is based on the idea of evaluating the value of prospective SEC members based on revenue?
i'll concede that my argument went in the wrong direction initially, but i stand by my position that basing SEC membership on revenue is a poor idea.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:45 pm to i am dan
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I can't see someone other than Bama or LSU winning the SEC for the next few years at least.
This, but everyone better watch out for Ole Miss, not maybe as a contender but as a spoiler. Actually have Ole Miss going 9-3 or 8-4 next season
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:47 pm to South Georgia Dawg
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Alabama has 23 SEC titles
Tennessee has 13 SEC titles
Georgia has 12 SEC titles
LSU has 11 SEC titles
Florida has 8 SEC titles
Auburn has 7 SEC titles
That's all they need to know
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:52 pm to i am dan
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I can't see someone other than Bama or LSU winning the SEC for the next few years at least.
Whatever you say, bro.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:24 pm to DontCare
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that is a direct quote. how, then, am i incorrect in assuming that your argument is based on the idea of evaluating the value of prospective SEC members based on revenue? i'll concede that my argument went in the wrong direction initially, but i stand by my position that basing SEC membership on revenue is a poor idea.
Do you truly not understand the difference between basing the invitation to new members on revenue, versus kicking out existing members based on revenue?
It is the LATTER that is so ridiculous and the argument you are attacking. I never indicated anything of the sort.
If we add two more members to make 16, what do you propose the criteria should be? Other than academics, what factor other than revenue and markets would we consider?
You took a perfectly reasonable statement and turned it into stupidity, and then attacked the stupidity. This is the textbook definition of a straw person argument.
Posted on 2/27/13 at 4:23 pm to South Georgia Dawg
I personally think Auburn and Tennessee are in danger of falling out of the "Big6." They certainly haven't yet, and they both deserve the benefit of the doubt based on their history and tradition, and I mean absolutely no disrespect to either program, but the future does not look bright for either program IMO.
That said, as an LSU fan, I certainly hope I am wrong. I would prefer Auburn and UT to get their shite together quickly.
That said, as an LSU fan, I certainly hope I am wrong. I would prefer Auburn and UT to get their shite together quickly.
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