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re: Hugh Freeze Quote Ayn Rand????

Posted on 2/5/13 at 11:11 am to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 11:11 am to
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In the Roman Empire, the first emperor Augustus provided the 'congiaria' or corn dole for citizens who could not afford to buy food. Social welfare was enlarged by the Emperor Trajan.[2] Trajan's program brought acclaim from many, including Pliny the Younger.

wikipedia welfare, historically it started with the romans.


What were Jesus and most of the Jews? Did ANY of them get any welfare from the Romans? Jesus probably had NO IDEA the Romans did anything like that. Certainly there was no welfare program in either the north or south kingdoms. Why would Jesus teach from the prospective of a Roman citizen?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 11:14 am to
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What were Jesus and most of the Jews? Did ANY of them get any welfare from the Romans? Jesus probably had NO IDEA the Romans did anything like that. Certainly there was no welfare program in either the north or south kingdoms. Why would Jesus teach from the prospective of a Roman citizen?


You've got to be trolling at this point. This new argument is just flawed in way to many different ways.
Posted by shakermaker
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 11:31 am to
Ayn Rand had it so figured out that she ended up a wretched woman who died alone. That's what happen when you spend your life rationalizing a system that is designed to increase your own happiness and treats empathy and compassion as immoral. You end up a selfish miserable hag that nobody wanted to be around.

Sure, she said you were free to be empathetic and compassionate if that was your thing, but you were essentially wasting your time in her world. I suppose she's right in a vaccum where your mission in existence is to simply keep breathing, but reality proves different. We are social creatures and depend on our interactions and leveraging off each other for survival and happiness. If it's all about me, you are going to run into problems.

Disagreeing her doesn't make you a commie simply because she opposed communism. What kind of logic is that? Her extreme of individualism can be just as dangerous as the other extreme of communism. The common denominator between both is man - who can be a selfish greedy bastard and make life terrible for the masses by colluding with other selfish greedy bastards under the guise of "liberty" or by colluding with selfish greedy bastards and call it "government".

Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:03 pm to
glad to know you were just trolling kaiser. You always seemed like a decent poster and you were sounding awful stupid.
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