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re: SI: Alabama Football Team took Deer Antler Spray (steroids)

Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by foxtrot2985
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:06 pm to
Best I can do right now:

LINK

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Dr. Roberto Salvatori, who runs a lab studying growth hormone deficiency and has been on the Hopkins faculty since 1998, said there is no scientifically accepted way to deliver IGF-1 orally.

“If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don’t need to get shots anymore,” he said. “It’s just simply not possible for it to come from a spray.”

IGF-1, short for insulin-like growth factor, is used to treat a rare form of dwarfism known as Laron syndrome and in other cases where children fail to produce or process growth hormone.

It occurs naturally in the body and is actually produced as a result of the increased presence of human growth hormone, one of the performance enhancers allegedly used by cyclist Lance Armstrong.

Dozens of websites advertise deer antler spray or pills with claims of delivering IGF-1 and subsequent benefits like muscle growth and increased energy. But Dean Nieves of Florida-based Bio Lab Naturals said it is disingenuous to make such claims.

“IGF-1 is very unstable,” said Nieves, whose company sells the spray under the Bio Protein Technology brand. “It could not exist outside of a very controlled environment. And when you order bottles of deer antler extract, it's not coming in a freeze-dried case.”
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Dr. Roberto Salvatori, who runs a lab studying growth hormone deficiency and has been on the Hopkins faculty since 1998, said there is no scientifically accepted way to deliver IGF-1 orally.

“If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don’t need to get shots anymore,” he said. “It’s just simply not possible for it to come from a spray.”

IGF-1, short for insulin-like growth factor, is used to treat a rare form of dwarfism known as Laron syndrome and in other cases where children fail to produce or process growth hormone.

It occurs naturally in the body and is actually produced as a result of the increased presence of human growth hormone, one of the performance enhancers allegedly used by cyclist Lance Armstrong.

Dozens of websites advertise deer antler spray or pills with claims of delivering IGF-1 and subsequent benefits like muscle growth and increased energy. But Dean Nieves of Florida-based Bio Lab Naturals said it is disingenuous to make such claims.

“IGF-1 is very unstable,” said Nieves, whose company sells the spray under the Bio Protein Technology brand. “It could not exist outside of a very controlled environment. And when you order bottles of deer antler extract, it's not coming in a freeze-dried case.”


This has been posted numerous times, but Bama haters seem to still think Bama was cheating.

Fact is, the stuff they bought is a complete scam. Did they get any gains from it? Doubtful, but if they did, it was solely due to thinking they were on something.....placebo effect. Or simply increasing their training, eating, etc.

There are literally tons of doctors laughing at the entire notion put forth by SI with this story. Just this morning, there were 2 on the radio just saying how stupid it is to even give this antler spray BS the time of day.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14737 posts
Posted on 1/31/13 at 1:45 pm to
I've seen this, and I respect his opinion since obviously there is a reason he has a phd and I don't.

But when you haven't ran test on the products, everything he is saying is his hypothesis.

I'm not trying to flame Bama fans at all. Im just interested in the legitimacy of these guys products, or if they are laced with other products or if they are just giving a placebo effect.
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