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re: SI: Alabama Football Team took Deer Antler Spray (steroids)
Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:18 pm to FlukerFlakes
Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:18 pm to FlukerFlakes
Ok...
You can take PE steroids and still pass drug tests. This has been documented over and over again.
This is the SEC Rant right? How many times did you post in the ATPB?
I'm not a biochemist but others believe it can. You can write the author of the article and debate their research. Here is some info I found:
Can IGF-1 be taken orally?
The surprising answer is: "Yes, it can." After digging through the archives of various pharmacological journals I eventually came up with a 14-year-old study by Kimura et al. (Kimura. 1997), who, in 1997, investigated the bioavailability of orally administered recombinant human insulin-like growth factor I (rhIGF-1) [the attribute "recombinant" indicates that this is synthetic human IGF-1] in adult rats (I deliberately underlined the "adult", here because in various neonatal or new-born / very young mammals the intestinal permeability is elevated to allow for the absorption of larger peptides from the mother's milk). The results of this study (cf. figure 1), I must admit, did really surprise me. If you add up (note: if you think I miscalculated, you probably just added up the percentages from figure 1 and forgot that when you absorb 35% there is obviously less IGF-1 left, of which, in a second step. another 17% will be absorbed, etc.) the amounts of IGF-1 that reached circulation (i.e. became "bioavailable") via the three different parts of the digestive tracts of the rats, the critters ended up with roughly 50% of the orally administered radio-labeled 125I-rhIGF1 actually getting into their blood stream:
Figure 1: Bioavailability of orally administered rhIGF-1 with and without peptidase inhibitors.
(data adapted from Kimura. 1997)
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RollTide1987
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That tidbit doesn't mean shite because none of these alleged Alabama players failed their drug tests, either before or after the game
You can take PE steroids and still pass drug tests. This has been documented over and over again.
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TreyAnastasio
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So, you are admitting to trolling?
This is the SEC Rant right? How many times did you post in the ATPB?
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FlukerFlakes
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LOL no. The IGF-1 cant even transfer to the user through the mouth.
I'm not a biochemist but others believe it can. You can write the author of the article and debate their research. Here is some info I found:
Can IGF-1 be taken orally?
The surprising answer is: "Yes, it can." After digging through the archives of various pharmacological journals I eventually came up with a 14-year-old study by Kimura et al. (Kimura. 1997), who, in 1997, investigated the bioavailability of orally administered recombinant human insulin-like growth factor I (rhIGF-1) [the attribute "recombinant" indicates that this is synthetic human IGF-1] in adult rats (I deliberately underlined the "adult", here because in various neonatal or new-born / very young mammals the intestinal permeability is elevated to allow for the absorption of larger peptides from the mother's milk). The results of this study (cf. figure 1), I must admit, did really surprise me. If you add up (note: if you think I miscalculated, you probably just added up the percentages from figure 1 and forgot that when you absorb 35% there is obviously less IGF-1 left, of which, in a second step. another 17% will be absorbed, etc.) the amounts of IGF-1 that reached circulation (i.e. became "bioavailable") via the three different parts of the digestive tracts of the rats, the critters ended up with roughly 50% of the orally administered radio-labeled 125I-rhIGF1 actually getting into their blood stream:
Figure 1: Bioavailability of orally administered rhIGF-1 with and without peptidase inhibitors.
(data adapted from Kimura. 1997)
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:41 pm to GambitAUfan
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This is the SEC Rant right? How many times did you post in the ATPB?
Once. To correct a Bama fan.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 6:44 pm to GambitAUfan
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GambitAUfan
GTFO with that. You just linked a "report" about IGF done by a guy basically doing a blog who goes by the name "Dr. Andro". No lie.
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