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re: OK Kennedy blowers...what's your excuse NOW?
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:43 am to BigAggie06
Posted on 1/28/13 at 7:43 am to BigAggie06
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Tell me what you would have done to this coach in his first 3 years:
Year 1 - 6-25, 1-17 Conf
Year 2 - 10-21, 4-14
Year 3 - 12-20, 3-15
So tell me what probation and NCAA sanctions that A&M is on right now if you're going to attempt to equate Tom Crean to Billy Kennedy.
Also, two more things:
1. There was clear improvement between year 1 and 2 and year 2 and 3. This was in the Big Ten, a FAR BETTER basketball league than the SEC.
2. A program like Indiana (basketball royalty) can survive a couple of bad years. A program like A&M cannot.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 8:11 am
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:15 am to CGSC Lobotomy
In what world is NCAA sanctions ever a justification for going 6-25?
How did Crean build the program? Through recruiting classes which consistently got better. There is very little that sanctions will actually do to basketball. They were not put on a post season ban and they self imposed scholarship reductions, we have essentially self imposed scholarship reductions if you believe that Kennedy "ran off" all the players that left.
Ok throw out his first year in which he had a roster of no bodies ... year 2 and 3 what was his issue? 2009 he added 3 4* freshmen and he had a slew of 3* stars that he added in 2008,09 and 10 .. how exactly was his situation any different in his 2nd and 3rd year than BKs?
The scholarship limits weren't hurting them. He was a good coach with a team consisting largely of kids playing their first year of D1 basketball.
Don't try to act like the IU fans looked at the "sanctions" they received and said "oh that excuses our shitty record" no they were just as pissed as we are but after given a chance to get players he wanted into the system and let them mature some he kicked it up and delivered.
The simple fact that you think we were left with a team that should have gone to the tournament despite the injuries we had to deal last year with shows that you are not reasonable. Quote being picked to win the Big 12 all you want, no coach would have been able to live up to those expectations last year. Turgeon's players obviously wanted to play for Turgeon so they left ... none of them are major losses except for Branch but it still leaves us depleted.
How did Crean build the program? Through recruiting classes which consistently got better. There is very little that sanctions will actually do to basketball. They were not put on a post season ban and they self imposed scholarship reductions, we have essentially self imposed scholarship reductions if you believe that Kennedy "ran off" all the players that left.
Ok throw out his first year in which he had a roster of no bodies ... year 2 and 3 what was his issue? 2009 he added 3 4* freshmen and he had a slew of 3* stars that he added in 2008,09 and 10 .. how exactly was his situation any different in his 2nd and 3rd year than BKs?
The scholarship limits weren't hurting them. He was a good coach with a team consisting largely of kids playing their first year of D1 basketball.
Don't try to act like the IU fans looked at the "sanctions" they received and said "oh that excuses our shitty record" no they were just as pissed as we are but after given a chance to get players he wanted into the system and let them mature some he kicked it up and delivered.
The simple fact that you think we were left with a team that should have gone to the tournament despite the injuries we had to deal last year with shows that you are not reasonable. Quote being picked to win the Big 12 all you want, no coach would have been able to live up to those expectations last year. Turgeon's players obviously wanted to play for Turgeon so they left ... none of them are major losses except for Branch but it still leaves us depleted.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 8:39 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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2. A program like Indiana (basketball royalty) can survive a couple of bad years. A program like A&M cannot.
So you are admitting that we are not "basketball royalty" yet setting expectations of basketball royalty (must be in the dance every year)
Did you actually WATCH the game this weekend? Outside of Ray Turner and a bad stretch to start the 2nd half ... what are your major complaints?
Roberson had a good game, ET had a decent game, Harris had a good game, Young had an outstanding game for Young, Caruso played well, Reese was down and got sat in favor of Caruso.
They played better against the press than they did vs LSU. The players played with "heart" which you always like to say they don't have. They played with a ton of energy.
UGA's "run" was 3 minutes 16-2 run in which our only points were 2 free throws by Young. The first part of the run was 3, 3, layup we called a time out. We come our Young get his two FTs they make a 3 pointer then Official Timeout then they make a 3 and another layup. In that span our offenses wasn't "ineffective" we took 5 three point attempts 1 by Reese, 2 by Harris, 2 by Elston ... only 2 of those shots could be called poor shot selection, the ball just didn't go down.
During their run they had very few quick shots, the guys were playing good defense and made them go deep into the shot clock and they were just hitting their shots.
So that was our worst stretch and you can't even make an argument for poor coaching there. Poor coaching doesn't make a team that has been shooting 70%+ FTs and all of a sudden make them shoot only 50%.
We made good half time adjustments, we were in Foul trouble in the first half and came out the second played smarter and got UGA into foul trouble.
Last game wasn't perfectly called from a coaching stand point but if we hit our regular FT % or if any of our players could make an open shot we would have won.
Now you are going to claim that poor shooting is somehow coaching I am sure, I have see that argument before, but for some reason that only applies to guys who haven't shown they could be good shooters, if Elston has an off night it is just that Elston was having an off night, no one blames that on coach, but if Reese and Caruso can't buy a bucket then it is all just this horrible coaching they are getting.
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